I'd say go for it, you can get it for fairly cheap. BB is selling methyl-E 2 for $35. My friend is running it at 30/30/30/40/40/40 and he is loving it. I ran Epi 3 different times, always had decent strength and a gain couple lean pounds while losing fat. Next time I run epi, I will stack with either trenadrol or pheraplex.
Update.......
End of Havoc cycle(4 weeks)
Final weight...194
Honestly fellas, I gained almost 10 pounds in the last week...NO B.S.
My recommendation for Havoc so far...
Do it, but be prepared for some crazy sh*t....
Man I have never been so emotional though... I ran 40 mgs. for 11 days instead of the full 14
Strength gains were awesome...noticeable physical gains not that good, but then again, I never think that they are good so...
Vascularity was definetley there...
PCT consists of PCS in the a.m.(2 caps)
6-oxo extreme in the p.m.(before bed)
1 cap for the first week
2 caps starting week 2
Activate Extreme throughout
Lean extreme starting week 2