1st cycle of test log. (advice?)
- 03-03-2009, 04:27 PM
1st cycle of test log. (advice?)
im geting ready to start a 15 week cycle of test (first pin is today). my pct will consist of nolva and clomid. this is my first cycle. i am 165 and about 5'8 (very ectomorph) my diet is prety clean and i usually eat 4 to 6 meals a day at about 1000 calories a meal. the only other supplements i am takeing are a monohydrate, waximaze, and whey and cassien protien. i will be documenting my cycle in this forum. if anyone has any advice, feel free, i love to learn.
- 03-03-2009, 04:39 PM
- 03-03-2009, 05:08 PM
03-03-2009, 05:13 PM
its ethinate test . im doing 500 mg (2cc a week). and a trusted source recomended a 15 week cycle, and that seems to be a prety common cycle length for this cycle.
03-03-2009, 06:11 PM
03-03-2009, 06:54 PM
03-03-2009, 07:04 PM
right on. im gunna do some more research on that. thanks for the advice. so i did my first injection a little while ago. and i was super nervous. but it did not hurt at all. i did 2cc's into the glutes, injection site is kinda sore but nothing to bad. im just excited to start seein some results!!!! this is gunna be the longest 3-6 weeks ever.
03-03-2009, 08:26 PM
03-03-2009, 08:32 PM
thats what i hear. ya im prepared to wait, but im still prety excited, even tho i wont feel the effects, im still pshyced to go hit the gym tomorow.
03-04-2009, 11:41 AM
day 2 still prety sore on injection site. nothing to extreme. i recently had my wisdom teeth pulled and immeditely after got really sik so needless to say,not only was i outa the gym, but i couldnt eat much for like 2 weeks, so im still geting back in the swing of things. i lost about 7-8 lbs in those 2 weks =( so i weighed in at 160 even this morning, dry with boxers on =( prety sad.
03-04-2009, 07:54 PM
if you have three vials you should count on losing some in the pinning process i Imagen you will only get 13 to 14 out of those three vials not the 15 week. mod edit: read the rules.
03-05-2009, 10:25 PM
thanx pepti. ya i got three vials. so yesterday i was super moody. dont kno if thats due to the test or me being pissy. and injection site was prety sore but it feels 80% beter today. paitently waiting to see/feel some results. workouts have been really good, probably because im super excited for some RESULTS!
03-05-2009, 10:36 PM
03-06-2009, 06:10 PM
Yeah! I wish I had run an AI! You might end up crying like girl like I have....literally! Sorta funny.....otherwise very happy with my first cycle of test. Gotta tell ya though....it's addicting! Love the way I feel in the gym and recovery is awesome!
03-07-2009, 12:36 AM
03-07-2009, 02:45 AM
Ya an AI during is probably a good idea if I ever do test again because I had some major water retention (though some was my bulking "diet") and it makes it obvious what is going on. Formadrol of some type or aromasin are good and should keep estrogen in check.
03-07-2009, 10:49 AM
i just ended an enanthate cycle of 20 weeks (similar starting stats, except i was 180)... by week 15 i was topped out on the weight gain, so it was pointless past that really. so in my individual case i did gain weight past 12 weeks. i dont think length of cycle really matters for a beginner as much as to what youre actually using. technically u could go till u stop gaining weight... i mean i was just as shutdown in week 12 as i was in week 20 put it that way
03-07-2009, 12:24 PM
Did you use hCG? Thats the only way I would go that long? The longer you are shut down the longer you will take to come back to allostasis or normality though it is dependent on the person.
03-09-2009, 12:00 PM
03-09-2009, 12:02 PM
perfect triton. ya im really excited about it. i cant tell if its starting to work or if im just giddy and excited. haha super stoked
03-09-2009, 12:06 PM
right on orangutan. ya im figuring my supply to last me about 13 weeks or so. im sure i wont be dissapointed. how were the gains???
03-09-2009, 12:17 PM
second pin today!!! it kinda hurt this time, proly cuz i was haveing trouble keeping the pin still. any waz. i got all my measurements taken the other day. i got a skin fold and dunked in the hydrostatic tank at my school. which are as follows.
total bodyfat- 6.7% (massing)
fat mass-10.8 lbs
arms- L15.5 R15
shoulder (arms down)- 49
(i swear ive been dieting and lifting hard. im just super ectomorph, and i snowboard alot)
03-09-2009, 04:40 PM
03-09-2009, 05:18 PM
03-10-2009, 10:01 PM
day 8. so i had an awsome workout today. i did back, and all i can think about is goin back to do biceps later. and my sex drive has gone up quite a bit. P.S how do i put my pic sa my default????
03-12-2009, 07:23 PM
03-12-2009, 09:06 PM
03-12-2009, 09:32 PM
so you are pinning 2ml once a week? you know it would feel better overall if you split it into 2 injections and did them saturday and wed instead. As it stands you basically have days of the week where you have as much as 100mg of effective testosterone in you, and days where it is as low as 43mg. if you do it 2x a week, the range would be from 54-78mg from lowest to highest.
03-12-2009, 10:27 PM
03-13-2009, 06:11 AM
03-13-2009, 08:29 AM
03-13-2009, 11:48 AM
03-13-2009, 11:54 AM
it would be more of a sucking thing, as the day of (or after, I forget how long it takes to peak) the shot your levels are more than 2x as high as the day before. So sure you stay at supraphysiological levels the whole time, but you go from feeling like thor to just feeling like a high test 18 year old. The bigger swings can cause moodiness, depression, etc.
Even for TRT docs who prescribe a 1 time a week protocol, they are generally prescribing 1-2 days of HCG as well partway thru the week which will cause your body to create its own test, shoring up the levels. you can get to supraphysiological levels of test FOR A WHILE on HCG only, but it will downregulate after a while
03-13-2009, 11:55 AM
on a real blast + cruise kind of thing you'd still do 2x a week, but during blast time the levels would be quite high, and during cruise likely 200mg-300mg a week, maybe more for the enormous monsters out there
03-13-2009, 04:16 PM
03-13-2009, 04:19 PM
03-13-2009, 04:37 PM
03-13-2009, 04:40 PM
ah true. you may be able to just buy them at a pharmacy. I know in florida you dont need a prescription to buy them
03-13-2009, 04:52 PM
Ha! dude i was searching for info on clomid and nolva and this was the first one! Then i started reading and noticed, "hey i know that name!" sup bro! didnt know u started the cycle before u had ur wisdom teeth out? tight
03-13-2009, 05:59 PM
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