Test, Deca with SD kickstart ???

[mattakaspeedy]

HEy guys i have finally got my hands on some test and deca and plan to run a massive bulking cycle soon. I have run a few superdrol, pheraplex, halodrol cycles ect. but never test or deca. Should i run a test only or test and deca. I want to all out bulk and plan on something like this...

week 1-12 = test 500mg p/w
week 1-10 = deca 300-400mg p/w
week 1-3.5 = sd 20-30mg ed

what you think of my cycle ???

 

[nosnmiveins]

cycle looks good. but i wouldnt run deca in ur first cycle....especially if u dont have any HCG.

test/sd would be fine for a 1st

 

[mattakaspeedy]

well i discussed it with a doc who was gonna offer me hgh but due to money i decided to go aas instead. He said if i did a test and deca i wouldnt need hcg. He said it would be a great cycle and add heaps of mass.

 

[mooch2321]

well...you dont technically need it but as suppressive as this cycle will be it sure would make recovery a lot easier....there isnt really any cycle where i would say "dont run this without hcg" but it sure is nice to have....

 

[nosnmiveins]

mooch summed it up. i dont need HCG for ANY cycle, but if u want to recover fully, quickly....then i HIGHLY suggest using it

 

[mattakaspeedy]

well i havent got access to hcg. Here in oz it is hard enough to just get test lol let alone anything else... oh and incase you wondering i do have nolva for pct...

 

[mattakaspeedy]

Anyways i only have enough nolva for pct and dont have anymore and dont have access to anything else. If i start getting gyno while on cycle can i use a ai or atd like 6oxo or something to help or would that be pointless and counter productive ?

 

[james1]

Anyways i only have enough nolva for pct and dont have anymore and dont have access to anything else. If i start getting gyno while on cycle can i use a ai or atd like 6oxo or something to help or would that be pointless and counter productive ?

If you get a flare up, or are worried, formestane is a great way to control estrogen during your proposed cycle. Don't think you would have a problem acquiring form. I believe the recommended dose is 80 mg TD twice daily. check out NEO's formestane thread.

 

[mattakaspeedy]

Do you have the link for that thread ? nutra is out of that powder also

 

[james1]

Do you have the link for that thread ? nutra is out of that powder also

go to the search function, click advanced search. then type in neo formestane. set to titles only. its the first thread. goodluck

 

[mooch2321]

i would also look at a prolactin antagonist....since your runing the deca

 

[mattakaspeedy]

what would you suggest apart from nolva, clomid, letro, proviron or arimidex since i dont have access to any meds ?

 

[mooch2321]

what would you suggest apart from nolva, clomid, letro, proviron or arimidex since i dont have access to any meds ?

chasteberry...b-6....p-5-p...all these are prolactin antagonists....but cabergoligne would be the best.....

 

[orangutan]

you shouldnt get gyno while on cycle. post cycle just go nolva/6oxo, although i wouldnt even waste the nolva unless my nips started to get sensitive

 

[mattakaspeedy]

yea it not that i ahve gyno or have got anyone from previous oral cycles but i just wana be prepared incase. Thanks for al your help guys.

 

[mooch2321]

you shouldnt get gyno while on cycle. post cycle just go nolva/6oxo, although i wouldnt even waste the nolva unless my nips started to get sensitive

really? have you ever ran a cycle? why do you think you cant get gyno on cycle? and as far as pct are you really saying not to use nolva unless you have sensitive nips?....lol...you need to do some more homework my freind...