2nd ph/ps - Havoc or Mdrol?

guapitomark

guapitomark

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Hey guys. I'm in 2nd week of PCT after a 5 1/2 week cycle of CEL's Hdrol. Gained 10 lbs, prolly will end up keeping 7-8. I'm thinking of doing another cycle in June or July. Should I do Havoc or Mdrol?

This will be my 2nd cycle. I'm leaning towards Havoc/epi, but I hear some of you say that the gains are a lot like hdrol and that the next step up would be mdrol.... I do already have Nolva on hand - will prolly order some Clomid as well if choosing to do mdrol.

After reading Monster's horrific experience with mdrol, I'm considering epi/havoc as a better choice for a second cycle!

Thanks for your feedback!
 
I agree that estane/havoc is a better 2nd PH due to the lack of sides and generally solid results.

BTW...just to clear it up, monster didn't experience misery strictly due to the SD. He was taking other crap with it that he had a bad reaction to...

Mdrol is somewhat dangerous, but, if you know what you are doing, is manageable...
 
nickrut said:
BTW...just to clear it up, monster didn't experience misery strictly due to the SD. He was taking other crap with it that he had a bad reaction to...

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True.

During my hdrol cycle, I didn't experience any sides with the hdrol other than BP rise. After PCT is complete I will get blood work done and make sure everything is in check.

Another option would be a 5-week epi/mdrol cycle that would limit the time/dose of mdrol:

Epi 30/40/50, then mdrol 10/20

Any thoughts?
 
yeah um..no on the epi/mdrol. two methyls is going to be a very hard stack especially since ur not that expereinced yet. do the havoc and then take it form there. mdrol as your third cycle would probably be a good decision.
 
bigpapa said:
yeah um..no on the epi/mdrol. two methyls is going to be a very hard stack especially since ur not that expereinced yet. do the havoc and then take it form there. mdrol as your third cycle would probably be a good decision.
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That sounds good. Better safe than sorry :)
How many weeks do you recommend on epi? What dose?
Is Nolva good enough? Or better with Clomid or is OTC PTC only even worth considering?
 
My suggestion; Try EPI+TREN combo, you can buy OTC as SPAWN, but I make my own version using EPI+KILOSPORTS TRENADROL. I have run six cycles, HDROL, SDROL, IDS MASS TABS, EPI, EPI+TREN and the later seems the most consistent for my goals. good luck. Keep your Letro and Anas on hand.
 
Leebenstein said:
My suggestion; Try EPI+TREN combo, you can buy OTC as SPAWN, but I make my own version using EPI+KILOSPORTS TRENADROL. I have run six cycles, HDROL, SDROL, IDS MASS TABS, EPI, EPI+TREN and the later seems the most consistent for my goals. good luck. Keep your Letro and Anas on hand.
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I'll check into that, thanks! What brand "Tren" did you use?
How did adding the "Tren" i,mprove your cycle vs. the only Epi cycle?
 
Leebenstein said:
My suggestion; Try EPI+TREN combo, you can buy OTC as SPAWN, but I make my own version using EPI+KILOSPORTS TRENADROL. I have run six cycles, HDROL, SDROL, IDS MASS TABS, EPI, EPI+TREN and the later seems the most consistent for my goals. good luck. Keep your Letro and Anas on hand.
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you got it wrong man, spawn isnt the treandrol, its epi and extreme tren, your way off. great stack though for sure, tough on joints though
 
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