First time Clen user

[elementrip]

I'm about to start my first cycle of Clen i've read a great number of articles on cycles. I would like to know if using Albuterol is comparable? And if anyone who's done a cycle has personal pointers I'd greatly appreciate your time in helping me

[EasyEJL]

Albuterol isn't even similar. Best recommendation is to make sure you have your choice of high electrolyte drink handy whether its gatorade, powerade, poseidon, etc. Next best is to start as slowly as you can, and raise your dose only as your sides disappear, generally that means starting at 20mcg and going up another 20mcg every 2 days the first time you use it. Some people feel that sides are somewhat lower if you split the dose, its difficult to say for sure. Do a 2 week cycle the first time, take 2 weeks off, then you can do it again. 2nd time you can start at 40 if the 20 didn't bother you, and also go up a little faster. But at any point where you get noticeable jitteryness and bad cramping, just stay at that dose until it disappears (or go down some first)

[elementrip]

How important would you say that keeping track of my temp bi-daily is? I've heard it's necessary and others say not to mess with all that your first time

[EasyEJL]

i'd just check it waking really, and not go over 120mcg your first time. Odds are you won't be able to anyhow, first time sides are much worse than later it seems.

[elementrip]

taurine. A must or just advised?

[EasyEJL]

probably a good idea to have on hand, if the cramps get bad that will help

[elementrip]

I'm sitting at about 16% and trying to drop into low single digits. Any suggestions of a stack with clen or cardio routine that could help??

[EasyEJL]

low carb, as much cardio as you can stand, probably moderate intensity till you get the feel for how clen affects you crampwise

[crader]

You will find the taurine beneficial when you are laying in bed at night and you get a clen cramp in your foot and little toe. You will never again question its worth..lol

[elementrip]

yeah im not one for the cramp loving. thanks for the more direct example!

[crader]

yeah im not one for the cramp loving. thanks for the more direct example!

LOL its one of those inevitable things with clen. You get cramps at the worst times and there is nothing you can do but suffer through it. Anything that lessens those is good in my book!

[elementrip]

Would Anavar be a better idea overall?? I know the results are a bit more lasting

[ageless4evr]

Albuterol is comparable. Basically the same properties. We implement it at our clinic.

[elementrip]

I have an old inhaler that is albuterol. so use of it would mimic the effects of clen bodily?

[carnivalhobo]

I have an old inhaler that is albuterol. so use of it would mimic the effects of clen bodily?

The dosage in inhalers is nothing compared to oral administration.

Ive run both and have converted to alb only. The clen sides are too much for the difference which is small IME.

Id take the taurine anytime you are on clen though, dont wait for the cramps.

[elementrip]

thanks carnival, you and ageless are some of the only people i've seen that confirmed that albuterol and clenbuterol are comparable

[quakebks]

how effective do you all think clen is? i mean comparing to epedrine and over the counter stuff

[Omen]

I've used Albuterol religiously with a good diet+training program, other than allowing for better hits and breathing, it did nothing for fat loss except the first couple of days, ran it for 35? days.

The EC stack is well studied and very effective, I'm on it now, rapid fat loss and great energy.

Clen, I would not use, while the studies about heart cell death are not conclusive, I'm not gonna use something unless I'm 100% comfortable with it.

You will NEED Taurine 3-5gs/day as Clen depletes it, increase your minerals too, Calcium, Zinc, Magnesium, Potassium and sodium is never hard to get.

ZMA at night, lite salt and bone meal powder or a calcium tablet2 will work fine, NOW foods make 1g Taurine (double strength) caps for a low price.

Run benadryl for 7 days, every 3rd week (average) when temperature drops, start using it, that's why it's important to log this stuff for reference, you can use Clen for 12 weeks if you need to by following that protocol.

[crader]

how effective do you all think clen is? i mean comparing to epedrine and over the counter stuff

Clen is effective with the right diet. But it depends on how much and what kind of cardio you do. For someone that only does HIIT cardio or needs to do quite a bit of cardio, then ephedra is better or you. Cln can raise the heartrate to the point that it hinders training if you dose it close.

[EasyEJL]

The dosage in inhalers is nothing compared to oral administration.

Ive run both and have converted to alb only. The clen sides are too much for the difference which is small IME.

Id take the taurine anytime you are on clen though, dont wait for the cramps.

how did you dose the albuterol? I found it still not as effective as clen dosed at 24mg/day split at 3 8mg doses. and its moderately expensive to run at that dose