Fewer sides: iForce Dymethazine or AN "The ONE"?

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    Question Fewer sides: iForce Dymethazine or AN "The ONE"?


    Yes, I know, is too soon to know, but only for curiosity: which do you think/expect will be safer (hairloss, gyno, liver...)?

    Dymethazine: 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3,3'-azine
    The ONE: 17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine

    Since DMZ has been launched a few days ago, and "The ONE" will be lauched on Feb, we have to wait some weeks/months to know, but i want to know what the people expect for that new compounds.

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    The ONE just sounds like its going to be rough on the hairline and prostate, but they are claiming otherwise, so we will see.

    Dymethazine is probably the easier of the two on the body in general...but superdrol was supposed to be non-toxic when it first came out
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    I think the sides will vary by user

    on average, who knows, that takes lots and lots of user input to establish

    the structure and chemical speculation is half bull**** to me. Start reading up on the logs. Personally I doubt either will be as powerful as they claim. But I welcome all new roids to the legal table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    I think the sides will vary by user

    on average, who knows, that takes lots and lots of user input to establish

    the structure and chemical speculation is half bull**** to me. Start reading up on the logs. Personally I doubt either will be as powerful as they claim. But I welcome all new roids to the legal table.
    I agree. Hopefully, there will be some very honest and unbiased logs going on. No nuthugging for future spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    I think the sides will vary by user

    on average, who knows, that takes lots and lots of user input to establish

    the structure and chemical speculation is half bull**** to me. Start reading up on the logs. Personally I doubt either will be as powerful as they claim. But I welcome all new roids to the legal table.
    Too bad who couldn't use a good Superdrol with mild sides....
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    It has no sides for me . I'm special in that way, but I respond like **** to most PH.
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    Should be interesting. Kinda expecting more from dymeth as its hyped up more and the logs have been promising so far.

    But willing to be surprised lol
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    Well I'm going to theorize:

    Dymethazine: 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3,3'-azine
    The ONE: 17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine

    According formulation, they seems similar, but "The ONE" it's not 2a-methylated, and i've read in Vida that substitution diminishes the androgenic activity and increases the anabolic of the steroid, BUT the azine bond do the opposite, so the A:A ratio of DMZ is lower than A:A ratio of "The ONE", and maybe "The ONE" is a bit less harsh for liver, since its no 2a-methylated.

    Some A:A ratios of related compounds:
    Superdrol: 20/400 (20)
    Dymethazine: 95/210 (2.2)
    The ONE: 140/380 (2.7)

    But the A:A ratio really does not mean anything (havoc has a high a:a ratio, and is very harsh for hair...)
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    interesting thread. cant wait to see how both of these fair out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I agree. Hopefully, there will be some very honest and unbiased logs going on. No nuthugging for future spots.

    I'm gonna run it and you know i never even apply for anything so you can count on me to tell you the deal
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    They both look good to me, and I'm pretty careful about what I take. Dymethazine looks like what I expect from the industry: Improvement on an already good DS. So if it works as advertised, I'm in.

    The One looks like it would be great for libido and hardening, and we'll see what else. If there is no/low liver toxicity, I see a stack in the making
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    Well I'm going to theorize:

    Dymethazine: 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3,3'-azine
    The ONE: 17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine

    According formulation, they seems similar, but "The ONE" it's not 2a-methylated, and i've read in Vida that substitution diminishes the androgenic activity and increases the anabolic of the steroid, BUT the azine bond do the opposite, so the A:A ratio of DMZ is lower than A:A ratio of "The ONE", and maybe "The ONE" is a bit less harsh for liver, since its no 2a-methylated.

    Some A:A ratios of related compounds:
    Superdrol: 20/400 (20)
    Dymethazine: 95/210 (2.2)
    The ONE: 140/380 (2.7)

    But the A:A ratio really does not mean anything (havoc has a high a:a ratio, and is very harsh for hair...)
    The ONE will also bind tighter to the AR and activate it better possibly causing more gains. however i think hair loss will be an issue with the one depending on the user, but DHT derivitives at easy doses dont effect my hairline at all.
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