Better Strength gains-19NOR or Havoc??
- 01-22-2009, 09:27 AM
- 01-22-2009, 02:26 PM
Trenadrol by far.
60lbs to the bench in 4wks.IronMagLabs Representative - Adrenolin15 = 15% OFF
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- 01-22-2009, 03:47 PM
tren... could be one of the top strength builders available.
01-23-2009, 05:03 AM
bump.......any more opinions?
01-23-2009, 10:17 AM
01-23-2009, 10:46 AM
01-23-2009, 10:48 AM
mine was 90mg. sides (shedding etc) can happen between 120-150mg. bench was probably my weakest gain - 225-255 in 3 weeks (yes, i only ran it for 23 days). military press from 155-225 though was no frikken joke!
like everything, all gains are based on your diet. also, make sure you dose your tren with peanut butter or olive oil, or flax/fish oil - minimum 5g with each pill
01-23-2009, 10:49 AM
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01-23-2009, 11:00 AM
By the way, I like ur sig, it is a motto that I live by.
01-23-2009, 11:01 AM
01-23-2009, 11:07 AM
max bench 225x5
max squats 155x8 (i know that blows)
max deadlift 165x8 (not any better)
max pullup - body weight
max skullcrusher - 100x8
max preacher curl - 85x10
max military press - 115x10
final review :
mad strength gains - went up insanely in all my workouts - and the strength lasted during PCT - i'm doing pull ups now with a 35 plate on me, and my bench is at 275x6. awesome gains, have lost only 1 pound, kept all strength, and i know if i finished the 30 day supply it would have been even better. did loose .5% body fat too. i'd give it a 9. i would give it a ten, but i definately felt my balls hurt on cycle (8x). great product. my strong areas of weights went up marginally (25% like bench), but my weak areas like legs, delts went up way more(50-100%). product rocks. if your weak point - mine is legs can go up that quick, it stands to reason that it will not only help break all plateaus, but also make your weak point one of your stronger points.
01-23-2009, 11:11 AM
01-23-2009, 11:21 AM
phera is supposed to be good, but not for leaning out. SD would be another good option, though liver toxicity is quite high.
just sharing what i know (and don't know).
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