What about these news "ol" - "one" stacks?

  1. What about these news "ol" - "one" stacks?


    Have you notice some new products, that's very similar to old ones coming back but with some little modifications?

    new 1-AD, for example is 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one (1 androsterone, and not diol or dione)

    new 4-AD is: 4-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one (4-adrosterone, and not diol or dione)

    New "pro-deca" (pro dielone) is NorAndrostene-3b-ol, 17-one

    The details is the change about having 2 ol's or 2 ones isomers, and there are now a "linkage", some like that.
    It is said to more effective coverted.

    Opinios? Is that just a new name?


  2. Have i said sometinh wrong?lolol

  3. The difference is that all these new compounds need two conversions in order to become active.

    Diol in a steroids nomenclature means that there are two hydroxyl groups (OH) at the specified carbons. Dione means that there is a ketone (O) at each specified carbon. If the former compound was 3,17-diol then that means there are OH groups at carbons 3 and 17 and the only conversion needed is at carbon 3. See what I mean?

    Basically anytime you see "ol" think OH. Anytime you see "one" think O.
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  4. Yep, but is this new linkage between them (the same molecule containing both ol and one) something really interesting?

  5. 1 sec I'm gonna draw up the structures so you can see what I mean.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by dice404 View Post
    1 sec I'm gonna draw up the structures so you can see what I mean.
    Dice, I understood.
    I am asking about these new, for., 1-T (said to be 1-androsteRONE), and not the 1AD (androstenedIOL or androsteneDIONE)

    See it

    1-T and 1-D: 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one

    1AD: 1-androstene-3b,17b-dione or androst-1-ene-3b,17b-dione or 1-androstene-3b,17b-diol or androst-1-ene-3b,17b-diol

  7. new 1-AD



    Old dione 1-AD



    old diol 1-AD (ignore scribbles)





    see what I mean?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by anbes View Post
    Dice, I understood.
    I am asking about these new, for., 1-T (said to be 1-androsteRONE), and not the 1AD (androstenedIOL or androsteneDIONE)

    See it

    1-T and 1-D: 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one

    1AD: 1-androstene-3b,17b-dione or androst-1-ene-3b,17b-dione or 1-androstene-3b,17b-diol or androst-1-ene-3b,17b-diol
    The only difference is that there will be more conversion necessary. The new compound now needs to be changed at both carbons 3 and 17. The "rone" or dione or diol is indicated in the structures I drew. sorry if this isn't helping.

  9. It's helped, so, against the info from sales, they are not more capable to conversion then the old ones!?

  10. Well this compound should convert to both the diol and dione compounds in the body and then convert to 1-test. Although this will eventually convert to 1-test, I would hypothesize that the conversion rate would be slightly lower than if the 1-step ph was taken. Either way this product will result in 1-test.
  

  
 

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