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    Who Needs Work Ethic


    I've been here about two weeks (website) And I am obtaining the knowledge I seek, (Thank you all who unselfishly share your knowledge and experiance BTW) but at the same time I am reading countless posts about kids/young adults looking to get big or get cut. Check it out I've done 2 legit cycles recently at 24 years old. I started by hitting the gym for 3 hrs a day at 180 pnds. for 3-4 days a week and i held two full time jobs, I ate food until i **** out my ass and mouth and ate more, I was FULL all the time this went on for a year, I gained 30 pnds (210) I began that process at 20 yrs old. Now I have a maintanable foundation and currently at 225 thanks to a certain assistant. I don't want praise an sh!t I am simply saying you need to reconsider using poisonous prohormones and quit wasting your money on supps that are marketed with empty promises. Try begining with one hour a day 5 days a week in the gym for 6 months MINIMUM. before resorting to "other things" to help you. Muscle isn't EARNED overnight and you sure as hell can't buy it. Alright stepping down from the soap box


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    well said, reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    well said, reps
    thanks bro

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    well put man, ive been thinking the same thing for a while now. everyone is always looking the fast and easy way, but the truth is that most people F them selves up doin it.

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    bro hitting the gym for 3 hours a day is not smart either for a lot of reasons, especially on top of a full time job like you said. thats called overkill, or OVERTRAINING. pro bbers with freak genetics can pull that off (maybe) while getting optimal rest and nutriests, etc.

    my point is this: its not work harder, its work SMARTER.

    taking prohormones/roids without the knowledge to make gains, moreover keep them post cycle is dumb. but telling people they arent working hard enough really doesn;t solve anything; in fact, id go as far to say its almost counter productive. instead, i think you should advise people to research more, and cycle smarter.

    i understand where you're coming from and you're right there is no quick fix. but the problem isnt working harder, its working SMARTER!

    ok now im stepping down for the soap box

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    I agree.. they shouldn't be used as a crutch.. The should be used in addition to proper nutrition and training, not instead of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gettingully1 View Post
    bro hitting the gym for 3 hours a day is not smart either for a lot of reasons, especially on top of a full time job like you said. thats called overkill, or OVERTRAINING. pro bbers with freak genetics can pull that off (maybe) while getting optimal rest and nutriests, etc.

    my point is this: its not work harder, its work SMARTER.

    taking prohormones/roids without the knowledge to make gains, moreover keep them post cycle is dumb. but telling people they arent working hard enough really doesn;t solve anything; in fact, id go as far to say its almost counter productive. instead, i think you should advise people to research more, and cycle smarter.

    i understand where you're coming from and you're right there is no quick fix. but the problem isnt working harder, its working SMARTER!

    ok now im stepping down for the soap box
    I forgot to mention the overtraining depression that followed to say it mildly, BUT what I wanted to emphasize was the importance of foundation. Furthermore you are absoloutely correct and what your saying makes a great addition to this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    I agree.. they shouldn't be used as a crutch.. The should be used in addition to proper nutrition and training, not instead of...
    Exactly...Thanks For rep

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    i agree, were on the same page buddy! reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by gettingully1 View Post
    i agree, were on the same page buddy! reps
    Thanks Bro..appreciate that

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    Def. a lot of people around this site that come here looking to cycle need to do like you said and just seriously TRAIN AND EAT for months and months.

    I have a real bodybuilder perspective though. I think everybody needs to bulk... 5'8 -> 185, 5'10 -> 200, 6'0 -> 220 etc. Don't stop until you hit those #s, and then cut... simple... people get lost with cycling and cutting before they know what they're doing or have even built up a big enough base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupremeAlpha View Post
    I've been here about two weeks (website) And I am obtaining the knowledge I seek, (Thank you all who unselfishly share your knowledge and experiance BTW) but at the same time I am reading countless posts about kids/young adults looking to get big or get cut. Check it out I've done 2 legit cycles recently at 24 years old. I started by hitting the gym for 3 hrs a day at 180 pnds. for 3-4 days a week and i held two full time jobs, I ate food until i **** out my ass and mouth and ate more, I was FULL all the time this went on for a year, I gained 30 pnds (210) I began that process at 20 yrs old. Now I have a maintanable foundation and currently at 225 thanks to a certain assistant. I don't want praise an sh!t I am simply saying you need to reconsider using poisonous prohormones and quit wasting your money on supps that are marketed with empty promises. Try begining with one hour a day 5 days a week in the gym for 6 months MINIMUM. before resorting to "other things" to help you. Muscle isn't EARNED overnight and you sure as hell can't buy it. Alright stepping down from the soap box

    Or at least man up and say yeah i know i'm taking a shortcut but that's what i decided to do don't be like i can' t gain natural if you haven't counted calories for the last 6 months etc. If your not training consistently every week and counting your calories theres is no way to know if you should be gaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by gettingully1 View Post
    .........my point is this: its not work harder, its work SMARTER.
    I totally agree. Training hard is good but training smart is better.

    This takes time, which is why one should wait to start using hormones so they can use them properly.


    If you're just spinning your wheels in the mud it doesn't help to add some nos to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedup View Post
    Or at least man up and say yeah i know i'm taking a shortcut but that's what i decided to do don't be like i can' t gain natural if you haven't counted calories for the last 6 months etc. If your not training consistently every week and counting your calories theres is no way to know if you should be gaining
    How about this I love being juiced up, it feels great all around.I try to do it as safe as possible but I love doing it, and i hate anti steroid people that love to hang around the steroid forum to preach about how bad they are for you.If you don't like them don't do them and stay in the supplement forum with your own kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    How about this I love being juiced up, it feels great all around.I try to do it as safe as possible but I love doing it, and i hate anti steroid people that love to hang around the steroid forum to preach about how bad they are for you.If you don't like them don't do them and stay in the supplement forum with your own kind.
    man...you really just dont get it do you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    man...you really just dont get it do you...
    I get it. You just don't get me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    How about this I love being juiced up, it feels great all around.I try to do it as safe as possible but I love doing it, and i hate anti steroid people that love to hang around the steroid forum to preach about how bad they are for you.If you don't like them don't do them and stay in the supplement forum with your own kind.
    Nice but your preachin to the choir, Try reading the post again,or for the first time for that matter. You'll then see that comment has no place here. But being the realist that I am. Judging by your rep points your going to say something f*ckin stupid. So babble away, by all means

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupremeAlpha View Post
    Nice but your preachin to the choir, Try reading the post again,or for the first time for that matter. You'll then see that comment has no place here. But being the realist that I am. Judging by your rep points your going to say something f*ckin stupid. So babble away, by all means
    You have alot more rep points than me so you are obviously more intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    man...you really just dont get it do you...
    Well put

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupremeAlpha View Post
    Nice but your preachin to the choir, Try reading the post again,or for the first time for that matter. You'll then see that comment has no place here. But being the realist that I am. Judging by your rep points your going to say something f*ckin stupid. So babble away, by all means
    From the guy who said superdrol dosen't work and is very expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    From the guy who said superdrol dosen't work and is very expensive.
    didnt work for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    didnt work for me...
    Yes but was it expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    Yes but was it expensive

    yes to a college student who has a huge appetite

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    yes to a college student who has a huge appetite
    You would agree that you are the exception to the rule. Maybee you get massive and strong from Superdrol NG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    You would agree that you are the exception to the rule. Maybee you get massive and strong from Superdrol NG.
    Which is more expensive than M-drol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    You would agree that you are the exception to the rule. Maybee you get massive and strong from Superdrol NG.

    yes i guess im an exception. superdrol NG is a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    didnt work for me...
    Man i'll bet your clone was bunk, idk about anyone SD doesn't work on. I say this as someone who doesn't respond much to most PH/DS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    Man i'll bet your clone was bunk, idk about anyone SD doesn't work on. I say this as someone who doesn't respond much to most PH/DS.

    possibly, but CEL always seems to have "paperwork" to back it up. who am i to argue....

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    Man i'll bet your clone was bunk, idk about anyone SD doesn't work on. I say this as someone who doesn't respond much to most PH/DS.
    That's what I was thinking. Maybee he should give it another try,he might be very suprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gettingully1 View Post
    bro hitting the gym for 3 hours a day is not smart either for a lot of reasons, especially on top of a full time job like you said. thats called overkill, or OVERTRAINING. pro bbers with freak genetics can pull that off (maybe) while getting optimal rest and nutriests, etc.

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    taking prohormones/roids without the knowledge to make gains, moreover keep them post cycle is dumb. but telling people they arent working hard enough really doesn;t solve anything; in fact, id go as far to say its almost counter productive. instead, i think you should advise people to research more, and cycle smarter.

    i understand where you're coming from and you're right there is no quick fix. but the problem isnt working harder, its working SMARTER!

    ok now im stepping down for the soap box

    I half agree with you. Generally "work smart not hard" is the anthem of the slacker who is trying to rationalize not putting forth max effort. Obviously, 3 hours in the gym is excessive, but I prefer to train smart by going to the gym and spending ~an hour and walking out having left everything I had inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    How about this I love being juiced up, it feels great all around.I try to do it as safe as possible but I love doing it, and i hate anti steroid people that love to hang around the steroid forum to preach about how bad they are for you.If you don't like them don't do them and stay in the supplement forum with your own kind.
    Well put. I couldn't agree more about the the people that go on the steroid sections just to bitch about how bad steroids are. I can't stand that.

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