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Smoking Pot and AAS/PH use?

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    Arrow Smoking Pot and AAS/PH use?


    Ever since I started in with AAS and PH use, I cut 99% of alcohol use at all times. I do smoke a little pot once in awhile.
    Are there any adverse affects of Pot Smoking and the use of anabolics? izza:



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    gyno

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    ^^^ complete bull****... please show me one documented case where some one has gotten gyno from only smoking weed.. ur telling me that if someone smokes and takes AAS/PH/PS and they develop gyno that its gonna be from the weed smoking over those 4-15 weeks and not the use of suppresive compounds? come on now!!

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    just search...theres been a crapload of threads on this...

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    Smokin' pot will not hurt you during cycle or any other time. Smoking isn't good for anyone but Marajuana won't do
    1 /10000th the damage alcohol would while on cycle or off. No comparison. I've read a few cats that have had to smoke a J to get their appetite up while on Superdrol. Eating is very important.

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    I think smoking anything might be a bad idea while on any compound that would decrease red blood cell count, beause I'd want all the oxygen I could get for all that heavy lifting; But I'm the cautious type.

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    Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    ^^^ complete bull****... please show me one documented case where some one has gotten gyno from only smoking weed.. ur telling me that if someone smokes and takes AAS/PH/PS and they develop gyno that its gonna be from the weed smoking over those 4-15 weeks and not the use of suppresive compounds? come on now!!
    Its been documented that marijuana raises estrogen levels. There are studies floating around look it up yourself. Combining something that increases estro levels w/ a type of aas that does aromatize could lead to higher levels of estrogen and also gyno. It doesnt mean it is going to happen to everyone but its possible. I stay away from it for those reasons and many others.

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    Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    weed + gixxer = hungry gixxer

    hungry gixxer + food = tons of calories

    tons of calories + gixxer = muscle mass

    muscle mass + gixxer = happy gixxer
    rofl

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    marijuana should be legal..

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    marijuana of high grade, DOES LIVER DAMAGE.

    I once was on AS for a few weeks, and after i smokes a few joints i feel the insides of me shriek in pain, i felt like my organs were getting hit by glass shrapnel!

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    Originally Posted by saiyuki411 View Post
    marijuana of high grade, DOES LIVER DAMAGE.

    I once was on AS for a few weeks, and after i smokes a few joints i feel the insides of me shriek in pain, i felt like my organs were getting hit by glass shrapnel!
    wonder how many people will get the sarcasm

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    Kind trees are the best appetite and sleep aid. Post workout and before bed. Haha, seriously.

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    Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    weed + gixxer = hungry gixxer

    hungry gixxer + food = tons of calories

    tons of calories + gixxer = muscle mass

    muscle mass + gixxer = happy gixxer
    This made my day.

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    Originally Posted by JKurz802 View Post
    Ever since I started in with AAS and PH use, I cut 99% of alcohol use at all times. I do smoke a little pot once in awhile.
    Are there any adverse affects of Pot Smoking and the use of anabolics? izza:
    Eating it is always better - you wont get all that tar and carcinogens fkn with your lungs - and from personal experience gives you greater munchies.

    Cannot comment on the effects on AAS though.

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    I love how emotional pot users get when you say anything about marijuana. I smoked for 6 years and dont see anything to defend.

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    Originally Posted by crazilyfter42 View Post
    Its been documented that marijuana raises estrogen levels. Combining something that increases estro levels w/ a type of aas that does aromatize could lead to higher levels of estrogen and also gyno. It doesnt mean it is going to happen to everyone but its possible.
    I've been hearing about those studies for over a decade, supposedly raised estrogen is why pot smokers are less inclined towards physical aggression. If you asked me I'd say being sluggish, burned out and hungry has a lot more to do with it though. I view pot like I do soy and booze: IF it's estrogenic it's certainly not potent enough to give you issues within reasonable use. I wouldn't be afraid of a few beers or a glass of soy milk, but I don't drink alcohol often, don't use soy protein powders/shakes, and I don't smoke-out 12hrs a day every day like I used to as a kid, heh. Even on cycle I wouldn't be afraid of a joint or bowl because of estrogen. If you're seriously juicing (not just popping some weak otc 'designer') chances are you've got loads of estrogen floating around to the point where anything subtle like pot is merely adding a drop of water to a bucket. And if you're taking a Rx anti estrogen potent enough to control estrogenic sides from steroids, I'm sure they can handle the tiny spike a single smoke session may or may not cause. I do agree with you on principle though, If I'm serious enough about my athletic performance to juice, I'm not going to be smoking anything, for endurance's sake if nothing else.

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    I don't stop smoking while I am on cycle. Never had any sides from smoking trees while on.



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    used to smoke a good deal, but now that i stopped i gain weight easier and am much stronger. i say no to bud while training.

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    Originally Posted by crazilyfter42 View Post
    Its been documented that marijuana raises estrogen levels. There are studies floating around look it up yourself. Combining something that increases estro levels w/ a type of aas that does aromatize could lead to higher levels of estrogen and also gyno. It doesnt mean it is going to happen to everyone but its possible. I stay away from it for those reasons and many others.
    And where, pray-tell, are these studies? I always hear about em, but I have yet to read one. If you could show me where one is, I would like to read it.

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    I have been smoking daily for my cycle. It's like steroids for my appetite; i'm up 17 pounds in 13 days.

    I would have legitimate problems eating enough calories to properly bulk at my weight without weed.

    I've never had estrogen related problems from this, but I know from people on this board that some people do. Everyone's biochemistry is a little different.
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