Smoking Pot and AAS/PH use?
- 12-22-2008, 08:22 PM
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12-22-2008, 08:46 PM
^^^ complete bull****... please show me one documented case where some one has gotten gyno from only smoking weed.. ur telling me that if someone smokes and takes AAS/PH/PS and they develop gyno that its gonna be from the weed smoking over those 4-15 weeks and not the use of suppresive compounds? come on now!!
12-22-2008, 08:51 PM
12-22-2008, 09:54 PM
Smokin' pot will not hurt you during cycle or any other time. Smoking isn't good for anyone but Marajuana won't do
1 /10000th the damage alcohol would while on cycle or off. No comparison. I've read a few cats that have had to smoke a J to get their appetite up while on Superdrol. Eating is very important.
12-22-2008, 10:11 PM
I think smoking anything might be a bad idea while on any compound that would decrease red blood cell count, beause I'd want all the oxygen I could get for all that heavy lifting; But I'm the cautious type.
12-22-2008, 10:17 PM
12-22-2008, 11:03 PM
12-22-2008, 11:05 PM
12-22-2008, 11:10 PM
marijuana of high grade, DOES LIVER DAMAGE.
I once was on AS for a few weeks, and after i smokes a few joints i feel the insides of me shriek in pain, i felt like my organs were getting hit by glass shrapnel!
12-22-2008, 11:11 PM
12-22-2008, 11:40 PM
12-23-2008, 01:15 AM
12-23-2008, 01:22 AM
12-23-2008, 01:45 AM
I love how emotional pot users get when you say anything about marijuana. I smoked for 6 years and dont see anything to defend.
12-23-2008, 02:00 AM
12-23-2008, 04:58 AM
12-23-2008, 11:24 AM
used to smoke a good deal, but now that i stopped i gain weight easier and am much stronger. i say no to bud while training.
12-23-2008, 12:56 PM
12-23-2008, 01:18 PM
I have been smoking daily for my cycle. It's like steroids for my appetite; i'm up 17 pounds in 13 days.
I would have legitimate problems eating enough calories to properly bulk at my weight without weed.
I've never had estrogen related problems from this, but I know from people on this board that some people do. Everyone's biochemistry is a little different.
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12-23-2008, 01:19 PM
12-23-2008, 01:24 PM
It's pretty clear that marijuana affects estrogen levels in a negative way relative towards building muscle. If you are looking for studies just go to google and you will pull up a bunch of information. Of course quite a few of the sites/sources will be related to anti-addiction efforts. I suspect that for pot-heads anything that comes from a source espousing sobriety will automatically be suspect, so take it as you will.
Aside from the affects of marijuana on oneís hormone levels, the simple fact is that smoking it will reduce the efficiency of your lungs ability to get oxygen into the blood stream, albeit less than smoking tobacco would.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with smoking-out even though I donít. It just makes little since to me to do something that does not help and could hurt muscle growth when on the sauce. When I cycle, everything I do is about maximizing the gains.
12-23-2008, 01:25 PM
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12-23-2008, 01:48 PM
Marijuana extracts possess the effects like the en...[Toxicology. 2005] - PubMed Result
Estrogenic effects of marijuana smoke condensate a...[Toxicol Appl Pharmacol. 2006] - PubMed Result
Antiestrogenic effects of marijuana smoke condensa...[Arch Pharm Res. 2005] - PubMed Result
Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits 17beta-estr...[Anticancer Res. 2008 Jan-Feb] - PubMed Result
12-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Looks like you can find a study that supports both arguments.
This is straight from one of the articles "The results showed that MSC induced the antiestrogenic effect via the ER-mediated pathway, while THC, CBD, and CBN did not have any antiestrogenic activity. This suggests that the combined effects of the marijuana smoke components are responsible for the antiestrogenicity of marijuana use."
Personally, I smoke daily on and off cycle and see no estrogenic sides at all. Some times I smoke right before going to the gym and have just as good if not better workouts than when I don't.
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