Which is more liver toxic?

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    Which is more liver toxic?


    1) 10 weeks of Tren Enth 400 mg/week
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    2) T-Roid @ 10 weeks

    ***I DO understand that these are not identical but these are my choices for an upcoming cycle.

    T-Roid is a NON METHYLATED (easy on the liver) oral designer anabolic that is chemically similar to the Super Powerful anabolic trenbolone acetate. T-Roid users are reporting Lean Body mass gains of 8-15 lbs that are described as Hard, dry, and tight with big leaps in strength.

    Like Trenbolone, T-Roid will not aromatize to estrogen. The feared medical condition called gynecomastia is absent with T-Roid.

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    Oils are far safer than orals. Why would you run trenbolone for so long? You can't compare the two.
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    tren Enth (all enthanates) dont "kick in" for me until week 3-4.

    Also, although I usually agree that oils are generally speaking less toxic, tren is a different animal - hence the question.
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    I would choose 10 weeks of injectables over orals every time.

    Liver stress is not the only thing you need to be concerned with as orals can negatively effect blood lipids as well as Blood pressure which then can cause kidney stress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    tren Enth (all enthanates) dont "kick in" for me until week 3-4.

    Also, although I usually agree that oils are generally speaking less toxic, tren is a different animal - hence the question.
    Whacked -

    just out of curiosity, when you say tren e, do you mean by itself or with test?

    also, sides are one thing, but what sort of liver issues did you have previously? an ugly lipid profile on a chem panel afterwards, or something more?

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    tren enan by far the safer choice, and will give better gains, 10 weeks is fine, if its your first time i strongly suggest using the acetate version.
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    Orals are indeed more risky on lipid levels BUT this is largey (not always) due to if the hormone is methylated. I am discussing a non-methyl hormone here. BP shouldnt be an issue anymore than Tren for sure for 2 reasons: 1) Tren - known for elevated BP 2) The oral is not a wet one so BP only a mild concern.
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    no you think the oral is not a wet one, you put too much faith into the oral designer man. ive seen the "dry tren ph " things bloat people up , give ppl gyno, limp dicks, etc. its a progesterone based compound and its not very androgenic so i would have to say its much wetter than actual trenbolone. and i can say for sure that t-roid would send your BP through the roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim666 View Post
    no you think the oral is not a wet one, you put too much faith into the oral designer man. ive seen the "dry tren ph " things bloat people up , give ppl gyno, limp dicks, etc. its a progesterone based compound and its not very androgenic so i would have to say its much wetter than actual trenbolone. and i can say for sure that t-roid would send your BP through the roof.
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