hcg really necessary for 10 week test only cycle?

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    hcg really necessary for 10 week test only cycle?


    Just wondering everyones thoughts about not using hcg during a 10 week 400mgs/week testosterone cyp. cycle? Is it really necessary?

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    no, not necessary at all. but it can only help
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    i was thinking of trying sustain alpha.the guys over at Primordial have been testing sustain alpha as a possible substitute for hcg in a cycle. obviously it wouldnt be as effective as real hcg, but still effective nonetheless. then again, i might not use either
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    What were your original plans for PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thething86 View Post
    i was thinking of trying sustain alpha.the guys over at Primordial have been testing sustain alpha as a possible substitute for hcg in a cycle. obviously it wouldnt be as effective as real hcg, but still effective nonetheless. then again, i might not use either
    It's probably cheaper to use some HCG.
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    i was going to use nolva at 40/40/20/20, a test booster, and an anti-cortisol
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    Nolvadex IS a test booster (if suppression has taken place). It's all you will need.
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    no anti-cort or anything? just nolva for a 10 week test cycle seems a little....well little....doesnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thething86 View Post
    no anti-cort or anything? just nolva for a 10 week test cycle seems a little....well little....doesnt it?
    Keep it simple! If you start to get pain in your nipple/s (almost always starts on the left side) during the cycle, take Nolvadex @ 10-20mg EOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    Nolvadex IS a test booster (if suppression has taken place). It's all you will need.
    Nolvadex is an anti estrogen which helps restart your HPTA. That is where the the natural test increase comes from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    Nolvadex is an anti estrogen which helps restart your HPTA. That is where the the natural test increase comes from.
    Exactly. That's why I stated that suppression must have taken place for the increase in test to occur.
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    I know I just figured I needed to help restart my natural test from as many different ways as possible. just nolva for the pct then? what about an anti-cortisol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thething86 View Post
    I know I just figured I needed to help restart my natural test from as many different ways as possible. just nolva for the pct then? what about an anti-cortisol?
    Up to you. If you're eating and sleeping right then I wouldn't bother.
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    alright....are my doses of nolva good? 40/40/20/20? should i keep it four weeks or make it longer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thething86 View Post
    alright....are my doses of nolva good? 40/40/20/20? should i keep it four weeks or make it longer?
    Four weeks is plenty, but do some more research. Rather than accepting the answers that are given, go and find out WHY
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    im doing research along with asking you guys haha thanks for the info
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    after doing some more research i'm thinking about a pct of nolva for six weeks at 20/20/20/20/20/20. From what I have read, hcg isn't necessary for this cycle.
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