I am under the impression that these are essentially the same thing/compound. If that is the case, why the rather large difference in price at Nutra? 40 for the havoc vs. 27 for the Epi... Thanks!
Different company; different price.
But they are the same???
Haha! Let me rephrase. Supposed to be the same.... Forget about the "tests".
Yes, they are suppose to yield extremely similar results but you'll have fanboys from both sides for one reason for another. As far as price, Havoc is usually just a couple of bucks (~5) more than Epi.
Thanks shift, for the straight answer.
correct me if i am wrong, but i believe it was RPN that first developed the compound for both of them. also, i recently read that the IBE formula under went a change a bit ago while the Havoc compound stayed the same. something about a different isomer is on it now instead of the older formula's one.
They are supposed to be the same and I think they are the same, and all the clone are the same. ALL THE SAME.
Too much drama behind all of this.
Buy from whatever company you want to support, simple as that.
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<------ Hard to believe, but I wasn't on any anabolics in the avatar shot
when I was on epistane i had a well being but not on havoc