Starting first inectable. One last question

[cmp007]

Ok so about to order everything for my first injectable. Going with Test C 400mg/wk for 12 weeks. Dbol to get it started maybe 20mg/day for 3 or 4 weeks. Nolva for PCT 40/40/20/20. My question is some people say throw clomid in there along with nolva. Is it needed? What would be the benefit of adding it?

 

[nosnmiveins]

Nolva in PCT allows ur natty test to rise as estrogen is controlled. clomid helps start ur testes back up but is not as effective as nolva for controlling estrogen post cycle

 

[cmp007]

So would both be more beneficial?

 

[nosnmiveins]

So would both be more beneficial?

yes, but either one on its own is fine. i suggest nolva if ur gyno prone.

 

[mixedup]

If you haven't orrdered yet and the price is reasonable i'd get both keep nolv on hand for gyno symptoms and run chlomid PCt.

 

[cmp007]

Yea its only $cheap for clomid

 

[papapumpsd]

Yea its only $XXX for clomid

Recommended to remove that pricing as it's not allowed to be discussed. :thumbsup:

 

[HEARTLESS]

For one.. is this your first cycle and if so do you only plan on using a novla/clomid pct? and you should seriously reconsider running dbol alone without any support or your liver may make pay not to mention your body.. and two I dont want to seem like im talking down to you just giving my 2 cents.. If you are going to go through with everything I would run the dbol at 25mg maybe 12.5 in the morning and 12.5 in the evening.. if you dont feel it enough bump to 50mg week 2-4 and space it out.. be careful with dbol though it can lead to some long sweaty chest pained filled nights

 

[mooch2321]

For one.. is this your first cycle and if so do you only plan on using a novla/clomid pct? and you should seriously reconsider running dbol alone without any support or your liver may make pay not to mention your body.. and two I dont want to seem like im talking down to you just giving my 2 cents.. If you are going to go through with everything I would run the dbol at 25mg maybe 12.5 in the morning and 12.5 in the evening.. if you dont feel it enough bump to 50mg week 2-4 and space it out.. be careful with dbol though it can lead to some long sweaty chest pained filled nights

i dont really understand what your saying here...are you recomending that he run support sups with the dbol? your not very clear...oh and dont dose dbol too late at night...thats why your having long sweaty nights...but chest pains???mabye you shoulda checked your bp or something...chest pains are 1 absolute reason for me to stop a cycle.

 

[crazyfool405]

Nolva in PCT allows ur natty test to rise as estrogen is controlled/lowered. clomid helps start ur testes back up but is not as effective as nolva for controlling estrogen post cycle

nolva and clomid arent used to LOWER estro nor will they,

they will displace estrogen at receptors

nolva binds better then clomid in breast tissue, but clomid works more efficiently to get your boys back

 

[nosnmiveins]

nolva and clomid arent used to LOWER estro nor will they,

they will displace estrogen at receptors

nolva binds better then clomid in breast tissue, but clomid works more efficiently to get your boys back

i agree. i was just trying to get the point across. post edited

 

[HEARTLESS]

i dont really understand what your saying here...are you recomending that he run support sups with the dbol? your not very clear...oh and dont dose dbol too late at night...thats why your having long sweaty nights...but chest pains???mabye you shoulda checked your bp or something...chest pains are 1 absolute reason for me to stop a cycle.

Recommending from what I know that dbol is a very harsh oral..I was unclear on stats.. something like anavar would be better and is less harsh on the liver even though it costs more and will yield less gains from my understanding.. the bp issue was solved with hawthorn.. just my 2 cents like I said

 

[cmp007]

I have supporting suppliments and all. I was just putting the gear i was going to be on and wanted to know about clomid and nolva. thanks

 

[freqfly]

If it were me I would bump the test to 500mg per week, 250 on monday 250 on thursday. Run Dbol for 4 weeks. It's always good to have clomid and nolva, but if I had to choose just one I'd say Nolva.