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I want to try Epistane, I'm thinking.....

Epistane 20/30/30/40

PCT Universal Animal Stak.

At what point should I kick in the Universal Animal Stak? It last 21 days

I will use milk thistle as well for liver supp.

Age 27

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
I want to try Epistane, I'm thinking.....

Epistane 20/30/30/40

PCT Universal Animal Stak.

At what point should I kick in the Universal Animal Stak? It last 21 days

I will use milk thistle as well for liver supp.

Age 27

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


Id probaly try and research before jumping tit deep into a cycle, before you end up with some nice titties.

check out otcpct.com, and search for epi logs. your going to need a SERM regardless so if you dont know what that means I would start there bro :drunk:
 
well youre gonna open a can of worms. people are gonna say OMG YA YOU NEED A SERM YOUR GONNA DIE IF YOU DONT TAKE IT.

some people are gonna say nah dawg your straight without a serm.

its up to you. if your not going to use a serm ( its really not that hard to get it), it would be best to have it atleast on hand.

research, research, research..oh and do more research on your PCT it is probaly the most important thing to your cycle besides your diet
 
I have done tons of homework! Short of the experience, that’s where you guys come in!

I have heard many mixed pct for epi.

Is it totally necessary (serm)?


Thanks again!
 
Post Cycle Support
6oxo
Lean Fx


most widely used otc pct id have to say! ( but theres literally so many options its rediculous)
 
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Advanced PCT: 4/4/3/2

Take them alongside each other.. That would be fine. You might want to extend the length of the cycle to justify spending the extra $$ on the SERM and such.
 
I put together this chart for my cycle. If you choose to go the non serm route you can drop it if you are willing to take the risk. Some have been successful while others haven't. My dosages were pretty high so feel free to lower them and shorten the weeks to 4.

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You have a few choices depending on what you like:
PCT of Post Cycle Support from AI, Reversitol or CELs new product PCT Assist.

You can also choose between Cycle Support and CEL's Cycle Assist which is capped so you don't have to deal with the flavor.
 
I want to try Epistane, I'm thinking.....

Epistane 20/30/30/40

PCT Universal Animal Stak.

At what point should I kick in the Universal Animal Stak? It last 21 days

I will use milk thistle as well for liver supp.

Age 27

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
why do you want to do epistane first!have you thought about 1-androsterone by a.m.s?.it was my first and i was really impressed!:)
 
Really like the excell chart there.. I think I might do one for my cycle..
 
i would recommend taking with milk thistle also!..since you have it.but if you want to go with epistane thats fine.i was just throwing this out there.:)
 
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Now, through a new and different legal formulation 1-Androsterone provides the similar results! Not a liver toxic methyl prohormone, 1-Androsterone combines the safest and most advanced delivery method available in a prohormone product to deliver better results than the older products. 1-Androsterone will improve upon what was an already high conversion rate to its target hormone, 1-Testosterone. Once again, like the older products, 1-Androsterone cannot convert to estrogen or DHT, so gyno and hair loss are not a concern. If you are looking to relive the benefits of the older products with a safe and effective legal prohormone product, look to 1-Androsterone to provide the horsepower for your next cycle of six to eight weeks. It is best stacked with our other legal and effective superstar, 4-AD on cycle to keep up your libido and increase your gains. Finally, stack them both with Arom-X to boost your natural production off cycle and complete your AMS Hormone Regulation kit.

wow sounds like an infomercial..but are you saying you dont need a pct or cycle support with this? I plan on taking a prohormone in the future and trying to figure out which one I want to go with...
 
wow sounds like an infomercial..but are you saying you dont need a pct or cycle support with this? I plan on taking a prohormone in the future and trying to figure out which one I want to go with...
like any other p.h you do need a post cycle.
 
thanks for the reply rugger?? All that smack talk and you could not offer me any good advice!

I guess you are just a fourm god huh?? fa*
 
So hes just gonna put together your perfect cycle and your gonna take it and have no idea why your taking what your taking.

Have fun with tits bro.
 
So hes just gonna put together your perfect cycle and your gonna take it and have no idea why your taking what your taking.

Have fun with tits bro.
have fun with tits bro!:nono:..you tell a fellow a.mer to have fun with tits?..why dont you help him out?..but in the mean time have fun with a negg!:nono:
 
thanks for the reply rugger?? All that smack talk and you could not offer me any good advice!

I guess you are just a fourm god huh?? fa*
i gave you a good example of a first p.h cycle earlier!..if your still considering it,i would rec.you research it to be sure!..goodluck!:thumbsup:
 
Id probaly try and research before jumping tit deep into a cycle, before you end up with some nice titties.

check out otcpct.com, and search for epi logs. your going to need a SERM regardless so if you dont know what that means I would start there bro :drunk:

well youre gonna open a can of worms. people are gonna say OMG YA YOU NEED A SERM YOUR GONNA DIE IF YOU DONT TAKE IT.

some people are gonna say nah dawg your straight without a serm.

its up to you. if your not going to use a serm ( its really not that hard to get it), it would be best to have it atleast on hand.

research, research, research..oh and do more research on your PCT it is probaly the most important thing to your cycle besides your diet


nolva is the most widely used.

20/20/10/10, something like that

Post Cycle Support
6oxo
Lean Fx


most widely used otc pct id have to say! ( but theres literally so many options its rediculous)


not only that but i sent him a PM trying to help.

dunno what more I could do. I was simply advising that if he has no idea what hes putting into his body is doing hes NOT going to know what to do when something goes wrong. thanks for the neg i guess?
 
not only that but i sent him a PM trying to help.

dunno what more I could do. I was simply advising that if he has no idea what hes putting into his body is doing hes NOT going to know what to do when something goes wrong. thanks for the neg i guess?
frustrated as he is now with the fact that rugger offerd advice and then bailed,chances are he will jump into the next thing head first,and wont ask for anymore advice for fear of negative remarks like the one you just made,he is a noobie and deserves the same amount of respect as you or i.imo!
 
can you read? look what i posted at the begining of this thread.

he wanted someone to tell him what ot take

and they did

then he got mad when rugger wouldnt tell him

i was advising him to do more research...thats an awful thing huh
 
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