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  1.  11-21-2003  06:36 PM
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    Expected to be low but HOLY...


    ****! Serum testoserone: 55.65 ng/dl; FSH: 0.00 mIU/mL; LH:0.03 mIU/mL; Estradiol: 10.81 pg/ml
    This is my third day of liquid nolva at 40mg/day after running T1-Pro 1 squirt twice daily for 2 months (I know that's a long time so flame if you will). Right now I am taking a lot of zinc and magnesium and Vitex along with my nolva and I'm keeping my calories high. Does anybody have advice for me, PLEASE!



  2.  11-21-2003  06:42 PM
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    try some clomid and hcg !

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    Keep running your nolva and a high caloric intake...your values should return to normal in a few weeks.

    Chemo

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    It takes a while bro... 3 days is nothing... listen to chemo and you should be fine.

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  5.  11-21-2003  07:54 PM
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    what is hcg?

  6.  11-21-2003  07:57 PM
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    also to get your test levels taken did you just go to a doc? how much does that cost on average?

  7.  11-21-2003  07:59 PM
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    I work in a medical lab. I test at will! Also I just thought of something, I had sex 3 times earlier today before getting my blood drawn. Can that affect the levels?

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    if you work in a lab can you tell me how its done? just blood drawn i'm assuming? also any idea on estimated price? i'm curious what you'll have in say 2 weeks though, keep me updated pls. i ran 4 weeks of t1pro then 2 weeks of m1t. monday is 4 weeks off itall then i'm gonna start 2 week cycles of m1t with clomid/nolva inbetween, doing 2 cycles of the 2 weeks i think. curious how long it takes beofre your levels come...

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    You get your blood drawn in a red top and spin it down in the centrifuge which separates the blood into serum and packed Red cells. There's a machine in chemistry called the Centaur that performs the tests based on immunoassay. I'm definitely gonna test again on monday and try to stay away from women at least for the weekend. I'll probably test every friday after that. And if anybody wants to send me some products to test out and have my blood tested at regular intervals, I could definitely help you out

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    if it just blood work i'm hoping it won't be too expensive, might see how much my school med services could do it for

    should talk to the chem/bio dept see if they could use me for a lab rat or something lol

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    Originally posted by supersoldier
    ...And if anybody wants to send me some products to test out and have my blood tested at regular intervals, I could definitely help you out
    hhmmmm...

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    why keep THe Cals High?

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    Fasting(starvation) can drop test levels as much 40%. Overeating will raise test levels. And I remembered drastic overeating will again drop test levels although not much. All in some article by Incledon if I remember correctly.

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    Originally posted by 2gcorey
    what is hcg?
    HCg is Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin. It is used post-cycle to reverse testicular atrophy.

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  15.  11-25-2003  02:35 AM
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    Day 6: I upped my nolva to 60mg/day. The three nights before last night I only got 6 hours sleep per night, and woke up tired as **** but couldn't go back to sleep. Yesterday I slept 10 or more hours. I tested again: Testosterone:87.73 ng/dl; FSH 0.00 mIU/ml; LH 0.01 mIU/ml; Estradiol 43.26 pg/ml. So my testosterone is up a little bit and my estradiol is WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY up. Hmmmm? The only workout I've done since my first post is quads, traps, and abs. My strength was the same as it has been on T1-Pro, I've been going up 10 lbs per week on squats for sets of 5 and that went well. All my poundages didn't suffer but I did notice less of a pump. I do seem to be picking up a decent amount of fat too, but I don't want to lower calories to suppress test even more.

  16.  11-25-2003  06:19 AM
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    Hate to say it bro...but some of us just dont recover as well naturally. I had a similar problem with t1pro (only did 2 weeks too) and its just how your specific body reacts to the hormones and how fast it can get back on track. Id keep the nolva at 60mg a day, and take it with food to increase absorbtion. Might want to try fl-7 or absolved...although for me it just seemed to delay the crash. Get some good sleep, and hopefully the FSH and LH will kick into gear...

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    Strange - why would estradiol levels shoot up on nolva? Pleas econtinue to post your recovery..

  18.  12-01-2003  11:55 PM
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    Got tested again on Saturday afternoon 90 mins after quad and trap workout, 30 min after eating. Saturday was Day 11 and I fininshed a full bottle of Lion Nolva that morning (that's a ton of nolva to go through in 11 days). Testosterone: 60.37 ng/dl (down from last time); Estradiol: 25.47 pg/ml (Down); LH: 0.83 mIU/ml (Up); FSH: 0.00 mIU/ml (same). Strength has been good but I'm still not getting a good pump in the gym. My last couple workouts weren't really that great so I took off Sunday and Monday. Tuesday is back and shoulders, Thursday is Deadlifts, hams, and abs, and Friday I'll test again. I added in Tribex 500 (couldn't hurt) last wednesday and lowered my nolva back to 40mg/day on Sunday because I only have one bottle left.

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    I would make sure fat intake is high, not only EFAs but saturated fat as well. I would eat more saturated fat post cycle than at any time.

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    Im curious, is it possible that nolvadex itself would show up as an estrogen? Perhaps that is why he recieved the high estradriol reading. Chemo would you know if that is possible?

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