Doing Epistane w/o post cycle support?

[ZoMbSta]

I was planning to do epistane but now that post cycle support is out of stock, can i still go ahead with nolva as PCT?

Also my guess is it's alright to do epistane as standalone without cycle support since it's not as harsh? this being my first cycle, i wanna make sure i actually reap the full benefit from epistane. Thanks for all the help in advance.

[josephd79]

Why can't you find post cycle support?? Try ATD, Reversitol, or any other one of these similar products. Are you looking for a specific one?

You'll probably want something on hand cuz you may get shutdown from Epi and want to keep estrogen in check for a couple of weeks.

[Rugger]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/a...-capsules.html

[KmuL]

Get Stoked, it's the exact same formula as PCS


edit: Thanks Rugger!

[ZoMbSta]

oh, that's good, think i will go with Stoked! as post cycle support is out of stock.

cycle support is good to have but not neccessary right?

[KmuL]

oh, that's good, think i will go with Stoked! as post cycle support is out of stock.

cycle support is good to have but not neccessary right?

well, I say its a must especially for a methyl cycle

[spres444]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/a...e-support.html

[dg806]

Why risk the health of your liver? Not smart IMO.

[monsterbox]

cycle support doesn't seem worth it for the nasty taste, hastle, and cost.

just buy liv52 and hawthorne berry...that covers bp and liver. When you are done you can even do some non-flush niacin low dose for cholesterol.

[bigzach1234]

uhhh.. milk thistle, fish oil, flax, liv 52, hawthorn berry, celerey seed, coq10, red yeast rice

[monsterbox]

uhhh.. milk thistle, fish oil, flax, liv 52, hawthorn berry, celerey seed, coq10, red yeast rice

sounds like what you would run with a pheraplex/superdrol bridge.

a short 4 week normal dosed havoc cycle...all this seems like overkill. My bp didn't even go above 145/80 at 40mgs. Dont waste money.

Besides liv52, fish oil (which you should be taking anyhow), maybe add some cissus if your joints hurt...many do not have issues.

[thegodfather]

cycle support doesn't seem worth it for the nasty taste, hastle, and cost.

just buy liv52 and hawthorne berry...that covers bp and liver. When you are done you can even do some non-flush niacin low dose for cholesterol.

Agreed. People have no problem popping 6+ ibprofen a day or drinking a 6 pack of beer, but say the word methyl and everyone freaks. Just take it easy and cover the basics. No need to go overboard.

[stxnas]

uhhh.. milk thistle, fish oil, flax, liv 52, hawthorn berry, celerey seed, coq10, red yeast rice

Looks very similar to Life Support or Cycle Support.

If you guys purchase tonight use the coupon code: Turkey Hangover and you'll get seven percent off EVERYTHING.

[dg806]

cycle support doesn't seem worth it for the nasty taste, hastle, and cost.

What sides are you speaking of?
Cycle support has none? It is good for blood pressure, blood lipids and liver damage prevention.
Cost is negligible considering all this IMO

[RoadBlocK]

Agreed. People have no problem popping 6+ ibprofen a day or drinking a 6 pack of beer, but say the word methyl and everyone freaks. Just take it easy and cover the basics. No need to go overboard.

True enough statement, but if moneys not an issue, then there would be no harm in being "extra" safe. I do agree with you though, there is no need to go overboard.

[monsterbox]

What sides are you speaking of?
Cycle support has none? It is good for blood pressure, blood lipids and liver damage prevention.
Cost is negligible considering all this IMO

not trying to neg this product as its extremely effective at protecting ones body. But I'm being realistic and cost effective.

it costs more than the ph+SERM to have cs preload and on-cycle.

liv52 (most popular world wide liver protection), hawthorne berry (dropped my father's BP amazingly), niacin during pct for cholesterol and fish oil. = less than 25 dollars. Only thing lacking is lipid support. But on a 4 week havoc cycle this shouldn't be too much of an issue.

[crazyfool405]

I was planning to do epistane but now that post cycle support is out of stock, can i still go ahead with nolva as PCT?

Also my guess is it's alright to do epistane as standalone without cycle support since it's not as harsh? this being my first cycle, i wanna make sure i actually reap the full benefit from epistane. Thanks for all the help in advance.

if you cant get PCS then nolva is a good choise, same with reversitol.

id recommend clomid thoguh, IMO its a better optioon.

u can use 6 oxo extreme and ATD if youd like .....

there are soooooo many options though man its ridiculous lol

[crazyfool405]

not trying to neg this product as its extremely effective at protecting ones body. But I'm being realistic and cost effective.

it costs more than the ph+SERM to have cs preload and on-cycle.

liv52 (most popular world wide liver protection), hawthorne berry (dropped my father's BP amazingly), niacin during pct for cholesterol and fish oil. = less than 25 dollars. Only thing lacking is lipid support. But on a 4 week havoc cycle this shouldn't be too much of an issue.

i understand what your saying, but to pop 20 pills to get the effect of 1 product, that you can mix in your shake at any time makes it worth it, plus if you look for the cholesterol support, it all ends up being quite expensive, but you dont have to preload CS you can preload hawthorne and NAC and start cycle support at the start of the cycle.

and 4 weeks can still do damage to your cholesterol and your endocrine system,

take proper precautions, and use cycle support

[monsterbox]

I really would go with reversitol for PCT and have nolva on hand.

Reversitol includes ATD and 6bromo but the combo is dosed perfectly. I felt zero sides except huge increase in libido immediately upon cessation of havoc.

It also includes resveratrol and eurycoma longfolia jack (tongkat Ali), and Indole 3 Carbinol...the resveratrol might not be quite as bioavailable as in PCS, but I dont think resveratrol does that much anyhow...its good for the heart but its def. not a SERM replacement imo..just a test booster.

[crazyfool405]

I really would go with reversitol for PCT and have nolva on hand.

Reversitol includes ATD and 6bromo but the combo is dosed perfectly. I felt zero sides except huge increase in libido immediately upon cessation of havoc.

It also includes resveratrol and eurycoma longfolia jack (tongkat Ali), and Indole 3 Carbinol...the resveratrol might not be quite as bioavailable as in PCS, but I dont think resveratrol does that much anyhow...its good for the heart but its def. not a SERM replacement imo..just a test booster.

Reversitol ...3/2/2/1
PCS/stoked_/_/4/4/4/4

this will work VERY WELL