jbsurfer
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I am a newbie to this forum and to training. Wanted to share the mistakes I have made so far and ask a few questions about them and my next cycle. I have spent a lot of time on the forum these last few days so I hope I am not asking too many questions that have already been answered.
First my stats:
28 years old. 240 lbs. 6'5''. Max bench 235lbs (so early days!)
I started training in March 08
Did 2 months of training with no supplements.
Then bought some Bold 200. Did 400mg a day for 4 weeks. Saw some good gains - but as this was the beginning of my training those gains may just be attributed to that. I read 400 a day is a low dose.
First mistake I made was I did practically no research before jumping into PHs. Just bought the bottle and away I went. So I didn’t buy Testabolan and frankly didn't even know what PCT was. After 4 weeks I didn’t have any sides and thought nothing of it.
Did another month of just creatine, protein, L-glutamine. Then the following month started on a cycle of OmnEvol. Still no research… I lasted 10 days on it. The gains were ridiculous! I put on serious size in no time. Problem was my balls were constantly tight, like I just got out of the ocean from a winter surf. Then by day 10 they were aching constantly too. So I stopped taking it. This was followed by 2 weeks of absolutely no libido at all. I still didn’t know what PCT was so I had done nothing about it.
Finally I did some research and found this forum and figured out what went wrong. BTW this is an amazing resource. Vitamin shops should really refer anyone buying PH type products to it first!
A few questions before I get into my next planned cycle questions.
- Was it normal for my nuts to tighten and ache on OmnEvol? I have read methys can cause your balls to "shrink" but I read this as the nut actually getting smaller rather than a tight sack.
- I know I should have taken a PCT but I think I got away with it ok. Am I OK to move on and do another cycle 2 months later, or should I run a SERM before I start?
OK on to my next cycle.
- I have started my next cycle. - 600mg Bold/day for 6 weeks + creatine, protein, L-Glutamine and BCAA
- Do I need to take Testabolan as well? At the same time as the bold or after the 6 week? I can't figure out if this is a PCT in its own right or something else.
- Then for PCT I got an OTC product called Novedex XT (6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol], [3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene], [3,5,7-trihydroxy-4?-methoxyflavone]).
- Does anyone know if Novedex XT is any good for PCT? Do you think it is sufficient for a Bold cycle?
- I have read all the threads about SERM vs. OTC and my take-away was "why risk it, always PCT with a SERM". So I put an order in for Nolva (astrozen brand) (wont get it for 10-30 days though, so hopefully it will arrive in time - I know I should have got it first). What I want to know is whether there are side effect risks with taking Nolva? It scares me a bit taking cancer medication, but getting aching balls again scares me more.
This is a bit of a ramble so I bolded my questions throughout. I tried to include all the info people ask for but let me know if you need more info.
Thanks for any help you all can provide.
First my stats:
28 years old. 240 lbs. 6'5''. Max bench 235lbs (so early days!)
I started training in March 08
Did 2 months of training with no supplements.
Then bought some Bold 200. Did 400mg a day for 4 weeks. Saw some good gains - but as this was the beginning of my training those gains may just be attributed to that. I read 400 a day is a low dose.
First mistake I made was I did practically no research before jumping into PHs. Just bought the bottle and away I went. So I didn’t buy Testabolan and frankly didn't even know what PCT was. After 4 weeks I didn’t have any sides and thought nothing of it.
Did another month of just creatine, protein, L-glutamine. Then the following month started on a cycle of OmnEvol. Still no research… I lasted 10 days on it. The gains were ridiculous! I put on serious size in no time. Problem was my balls were constantly tight, like I just got out of the ocean from a winter surf. Then by day 10 they were aching constantly too. So I stopped taking it. This was followed by 2 weeks of absolutely no libido at all. I still didn’t know what PCT was so I had done nothing about it.
Finally I did some research and found this forum and figured out what went wrong. BTW this is an amazing resource. Vitamin shops should really refer anyone buying PH type products to it first!
A few questions before I get into my next planned cycle questions.
- Was it normal for my nuts to tighten and ache on OmnEvol? I have read methys can cause your balls to "shrink" but I read this as the nut actually getting smaller rather than a tight sack.
- I know I should have taken a PCT but I think I got away with it ok. Am I OK to move on and do another cycle 2 months later, or should I run a SERM before I start?
OK on to my next cycle.
- I have started my next cycle. - 600mg Bold/day for 6 weeks + creatine, protein, L-Glutamine and BCAA
- Do I need to take Testabolan as well? At the same time as the bold or after the 6 week? I can't figure out if this is a PCT in its own right or something else.
- Then for PCT I got an OTC product called Novedex XT (6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol], [3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene], [3,5,7-trihydroxy-4?-methoxyflavone]).
- Does anyone know if Novedex XT is any good for PCT? Do you think it is sufficient for a Bold cycle?
- I have read all the threads about SERM vs. OTC and my take-away was "why risk it, always PCT with a SERM". So I put an order in for Nolva (astrozen brand) (wont get it for 10-30 days though, so hopefully it will arrive in time - I know I should have got it first). What I want to know is whether there are side effect risks with taking Nolva? It scares me a bit taking cancer medication, but getting aching balls again scares me more.
This is a bit of a ramble so I bolded my questions throughout. I tried to include all the info people ask for but let me know if you need more info.
Thanks for any help you all can provide.