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why does this happen - libido seems fine but can't finish

  1.  11-27-2008  01:54 PM
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    prolactin maybe? cabergoline sounds like a fun thing to try anyways...lol



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    Try adding in 1g of L-DOPA with a COMT and DCI (catechol-O-methyl transferase and decarboxylase inhibitor) while on cycle to keep prolactin low. Prolactin inhibits the ejaculatory reflex.

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    That's an interesting thought on the prolactin... The prolactin would inhibit ejaculation. But I think it would inhibit the erection as well, for example, deca d!ck. I believe deca is a progestin (or chemically similar. I may be wrong, correct me if I'm not) which can lead to an increase in prolactin, which in turn leads to impotence, and of course lack of ejaculation... I'm really interested in finding out what the culprit is. I've had the same problem at times.

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    Originally Posted by Brian5225 View Post
    That's an interesting thought on the prolactin... The prolactin would inhibit ejaculation. But I think it would inhibit the erection as well, for example, deca d!ck. I believe deca is a progestin (or chemically similar. I may be wrong, correct me if I'm not) which can lead to an increase in prolactin, which in turn leads to impotence, and of course lack of ejaculation... I'm really interested in finding out what the culprit is. I've had the same problem at times.
    Hyperprolactinemia can induce impotence; however, the Prolactin secretion we are speaking about here is of lower scope and magnitude, and thereby may be presenting a permanent refractory period, but not issues with sexual function. Deca is also a Progesterone, which is often confused with Prolactin, but they are not necessarily intrinsically linked in all mechanisms of action.

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    Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Try adding in 1g of L-DOPA with a COMT and DCI (catechol-O-methyl transferase and decarboxylase inhibitor) while on cycle to keep prolactin low. Prolactin inhibits the ejaculatory reflex.
    thanks Mullet, I was hoping you'd stop by!

    would running something like powerfull or IGF-2 help by lowering prolactin levels? I believe that prolactin is inversely related to GH.

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    Originally Posted by delsolrob View Post
    thanks Mullet, I was hoping you'd stop by!

    would running something like powerfull or IGF-2 help by lowering prolactin levels? I believe that prolactin is inversely related to GH.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...fo-mullet.html

    I hate being "selly", so there is an article I wrote that will assist you in deciding for yourself!

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    thanks to the guys that posted serious responses!

    I do believe this is probably related to prolactin, next time I'm cycling I'll try running L-Dopa to see if the issue can be avoided.

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    If your ejaculate volume is low, then I have a theory:

    Too much testosterone = negative feedback at hypiothalamus -> decreased gnRH -> decreased Lh and FSH.

    FSH and testosterone both are needed to make sperm.

    SInce FSH is low, sperm is not made as much

    This decreases volume of ur ejaculate. Wihtotu as much ejaculate volume, it is harder to force out a little dribble of cum.

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    Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...fo-mullet.html

    I hate being "selly", so there is an article I wrote that will assist you in deciding for yourself!
    what are your thoughts on cabergoline?

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    i have the same problem on s-drol right now

    it's just the libido going down.

    and i was forcing myself like a chore just because i havn't been in the mood for a couple days and i fear being impotent for life.

    it should all be a ok after pct.

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    Originally Posted by delsolrob View Post
    what are your thoughts on cabergoline?
    Personally, I feel the less one can utilize research chemicals, the better.

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    Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Personally, I feel the less one can utilize research chemicals, the better.
    why not...they're so regulated, and you can always be sure of their purity and lack of dangerous chemicals!!!!!

    haha! yeah, I get what you're saying bud!

    thanks for your input

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    Originally Posted by delsolrob View Post
    why not...they're so regulated, and you can always be sure of their purity and lack of dangerous chemicals!!!!!

    haha! yeah, I get what you're saying bud!

    thanks for your input


    I definitely would not underestimate the power of L-DOPA to attenuate Hyperprolactinemia-esque conditions, though. Mucuna has also been shown to exhibit hormone-independent aphrodisiacal effects - most likely through a neurological pathway, altering the risk-reward/motivation-desire complex in respects to sexual situations. Anecdotal as it may be, though!

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    Try 50-100mg of B6 before bed

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    Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Try 50-100mg of B6 before bed
    I always dose p-5-p while on cycle and this has never aleviated this symptom

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    i have no idea as to why this happens (i figured it was just due to low sensitivity induced by low natural test levels) but i know exactly what your talking about.

  17.  12-10-2008  07:59 PM
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    Did you try L-Dopa?

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    i do know that any kind of opiate will give you the same problem due to enlarging your prostate, maybe what your taking is doing the same

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