- 11-11-2008, 01:54 AM
Hey guys, starting a 12 week cycle of sust(12)/tbol(6)/deca(10)/Eq(12)
let me know what your thoughts are...people say not to take deca and eq but i think thats b/s...here are my dosages...and some questions
sust - 750/wk
tbol - 60mg/daily how should i spread this out during the day?
deca - 300mg/week
Eq - 400 - 600mg/week what dose should i take for 12 weeks?
will be taking nolv 20mg/daily
one other question is I want to use hcg DURING this cycle..
How much should I take per week with my steroid dosages?
What week should I start taking it in the cycle?
What time of the day do I take it...after my workout...after my shots etc?
Help would be great guys...
need some rep points!!! thanks
- 11-11-2008, 04:50 AM
People tend to use 350-500 IU of hcg twice a week with good results.
- 11-12-2008, 09:28 PM
wow one reply only? jesus CH this forum site must really suck!!! no help with this ****
11-12-2008, 09:38 PM
outline the goals of your cycle, also EQ for 12 weeks is too short IMO. TBOl dose is fine.
11-12-2008, 09:41 PM
12 week minimum for EQ, i suggest 14-16 weeks, everything else looks good
11-12-2008, 09:46 PM
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personally i would drop the EQ if your only using for 12 weeks or have used it before and its a must have for you. spread out the T-bol dose to 3-4x a day if you can. the rest looks fine.
drop the nolva ED during cycle and add in an AI like a-dex, aromasin, or a low dose of letro (personally like a-dex the best).
11-12-2008, 11:22 PM
11-13-2008, 03:06 PM
cool...yeah will cycle 14-15 weeks instead of 12 with the injectables...I've used Adex before in a cycle...but I feel like nolva works better for me on cycle than an AI...plus nolva increases floating test levels which will allow for more potential. AI eliminates estrogen which I think is important when on cycle...give me your thoughts
I think it's a toss up for a lot of people.
as far as hcg goes...i know taking between 250-500 weeks is recommened...i just dont know when to take it as far as after i inject the test...TIMING! HELP
11-13-2008, 05:00 PM
11-13-2008, 07:21 PM
As far as gains are concerned it's a hotly debated issue. Some insist no estrogen control is best for optimal gains because estrogen up regulates the androgen receptor. Animal studies have shown that testosterone co-administered with estrogen was most effective for increasing weight of cattle.
Nolvadex is also reported to reduce IGF-1 expression in the liver perhaps impacting upon gains.
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