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Epistane Shutdown

TDHAWKS

TDHAWKS

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Anyone witness any hard shutdown from this? Day in and day out over the past week and a half I have felt like a Mack Truck has hit me. My body aches and I'm not sure if it's just the weather and DOMS or actually some shutdown from Epistane. I'm on my final week, was thinking of adding an additional four weeks of Tren to this but may just go straight to PCT if I feel this way. I have done Tren before and felt great on it, so I am really pondering...

Thanks for the feedback guys.
 
If you are experiencing aches while on epistane it could be the anti-estrogen action affecting your joints.

I did a cycle of winstrol once and the aches in my joints almost killed me.
 
Epistane shut me down down big time. Are you experiencing aches, or other sides? Someone correct me if Im wrong, but I think there is a difference between aches while on and being shut down.
 
nattydisaster said:
Yea you could just be dried out. What dose are you taking? Are you taking anything else?
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I am taking milk thistle, fish oils, and I am running it at 20,30,30, and this week was 40 but I was aching bad so I dropped back to 30 after a few days and was then considering bridging the final 10 mgs with the Tren for another four weeks if my body started to feel better. Think the Tren would help out or be better off just going to PCT?
 
mrchristian said:
Epistane shut me down down big time. Are you experiencing aches, or other sides? Someone correct me if Im wrong, but I think there is a difference between aches while on and being shut down.
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My back is really tight, which I am heard of back pumps and so forth. My hips, lower back, and knees are also pretty damn sore. As if I just ran 5 miles or hit legs hard. That make sense?
 
TDHAWKS said:
My back is really tight, which I am heard of back pumps and so forth. My hips, lower back, and knees are also pretty damn sore. As if I just ran 5 miles or hit legs hard. That make sense?
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That sounds more like just typical sides of a dry compound. Shutdown to me is ultra lethargy, almost feeling flu like, and the biggest tell tale sign is a shrinkage of the boys.
 
This could be the drying out of your joints (estrogen related), or simply because you're not eating enough carbohydrates.
What does your daily eating regimen consist of? (Macros)
 
I'm thinking more along the lines of the dry compound as well. I could pry uptake my carbs a bit but I am still putting plenty in. And no shrinkage btw. Thank god. But I am very tired more the time, pry cuz I am up at 4 am and work 12 hour days from time to time.

One more thing about the possible bridge. Do you think that if I take the tren for 4 more weeks after this, my body will feel the same or start to come back to normal? If I feel like I do for 4 more weeks, I may just go to PCT.

Thanks.
 
TDHAWKS said:
I am taking milk thistle, fish oils, and I am running it at 20,30,30, and this week was 40 but I was aching bad so I dropped back to 30 after a few days and was then considering bridging the final 10 mgs with the Tren for another four weeks if my body started to feel better. Think the Tren would help out or be better off just going to PCT?
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If your really concerned about shutdown the designer tren might not be a good choice because there are people on this board complaining about erectile dysfunction on designer tren and that can only mean they are shut down badly.
 
TDHAWKS said:
I'm thinking more along the lines of the dry compound as well. I could pry uptake my carbs a bit but I am still putting plenty in. And no shrinkage btw. Thank god. But I am very tired more the time, pry cuz I am up at 4 am and work 12 hour days from time to time.

One more thing about the possible bridge. Do you think that if I take the tren for 4 more weeks after this, my body will feel the same or start to come back to normal? If I feel like I do for 4 more weeks, I may just go to PCT.

Thanks.
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i had achy joints as well, Cissus proved pretty effective to me and it went away. However you are so far into your cycle that it won't do you any good. It's cheap too, so definitely worth the money. Get it for you next cycle.

Epistane shut me down in the form of libido. I also ran it for almost 6 weeks so that was just stupidity on my part. I loved the gains though.
 
My lipido isn't all too bad in all honesty. My body is just sore. I have ran tren before and didn't have any problems down there. It just turned me into a porn star as far as stamina wise so maybe I will run that again. Also, it didn't seem to shut me done a lot. I just don't want to be in a deeper hole with the two combined like in the sense of body aches. If so, maybe ill just run the pct.
 
Not sure if your using fish oil or not, but dose that for sure. Cissus will also help with joint issues.
 
**** i was using cissus, glucosamine, etc and epi dried my joints out so bad!

My right elbow which has a significant cartlidge damage already, became swollen and immoible to the point that I went in for mri's/xrays/catscans thinking it was broken! This is all from 40-50mg of epi
 
not sure in how it does it but epi has mild lh influence, either mimics or stimulates not sure which. So testies normally won't shrink, especially at lower doses but still suppresses natural production of natty test. I read somewhere that lh will be very low after cycle and test levels drop quickly. So if I read it right your hpta is still shut down after cycle but by different action then typical steroid/ph cycles
 
Yep, weird compund, i felt better the last 1,5 weeks than i did the first 3. Joint pains went away, backpains lessend, never felt lethargic ever. Balls felt a bit softer and smaller miday, bu returned to full by the end. 3days of nolva now,and they became even bigger and harder than ever. libido still great. enery levels top.
No post cycle crash or bad reactions to nolva.
Maybe some sort of rebound
 
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