Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione in spawn is a progestin and you need to expect tren like sides... what is a progestin and what are tren like sides? im seeing people dosing at 90mg when i read that it should be 50-75mg
its not a progestin as many believe,
its a precursone to dienolone.
its dry gains, great strength, most people use anywhere from 60-120mg depending on experience, sides, and insanity.
you can expect to get shut down, theres no conversion to estrogen or DHT, and its moderatly safe on the liver compared to others, (just because its not methylated doesnt mean that it wont harm your liver)
until you start your cycle do as much research as you can and ask your unanswered questions in about a week or 2 weeks when you may have done enough research.
also watch for bp I did a cycle of xtrrme tren and my bp shot up almost to pregypertension so get some Hawthorne berry
epi and super are progestins? i see so many threads with nolva used as pct for those..
i greatly feel that because nolva sensitizes the progesterone receptor and DHT derivitives sensitize the estrogen receptor while on cycle
that when talking nolva it can lead to prolactin induced gyno when coming off
i also personally feel that gyno can be caused by using a SERM improperly without the addition of any AI.
but some feel that AIs are the culprit, in my experience, ive never gotten gyno, i may not be prone or i am doing something right,
also with some of my buddies who i help out with theyre cycle, when they are on or off they have not gotten gyno.
in my experience, Rebound gyno is nothing more then just gyno, that appears after a cycle due to flux of estrogen after the receptor has been used up and the estrogen that was there was displaced, and then when coming off of the SERM it floods the receptor.
but hey thats only one guys opinion, and i believe Dave palumbo shares this one with me aswell.