IS T-ROID a progestin???? Expert advice needed!

abuleh

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Guys,

I am really getting confused. Trying to read up on T-ROID because I got it on my shelf and planning a cutting cycle to get in good shape for summer 2009 ;-) but the more I read the more I am getting confused. There are so many different opinions and people that "think they know". Still got some time but trying to get my sh*t straight.

If I got it right T-ROID has nothing to do with Deca or Tren and is a precursor to dienolone. True?

Does this mean it is not a progestin???

I don't have to protect against a progestin based gyno and using Nolva as a SERM is not a concern????

The famous deca d*ck is not a concern either, right??

How does it effect libido?

Who can shed some light on T-ROID???

Thanks in advance
~abuleh
 
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Guys,

I am really getting confused. Trying to read up on T-ROID because I got it on my shelf and planning a cutting cycle to get in good shape for summer 2009 ;-) but the more I read the more I am getting confused. There are so many different opinions and people that "think they know". Still got some time but trying to get my sh*t straight.

If I got it right T-ROID has nothing to do with Deca or Tren and is a precursor to dienolone. True?

Does this mean it is not a progestin???

I don't have to protect against a progestin based gyno and using Nolva as a SERM is not a concern????

The famous deca d*ck is not a concern either, right??

How does it effect libido?

Who can shed some light on T-ROID???

Thanks in advance
~abuleh
Yes, its a dienolone percursor. No its not a progestin, although there is an affinity for the pregesterone receptors. You will still have the same concern with using Nolvadex in PCT as you would with any other progestin. You might have a noticeable increase in libido for a week or two, but it will eventually cease to exist.
 

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Guys,

I am really getting confused. Trying to read up on T-ROID because I got it on my shelf and planning a cutting cycle to get in good shape for summer 2009 ;-) but the more I read the more I am getting confused. There are so many different opinions and people that "think they know". Still got some time but trying to get my sh*t straight.

If I got it right T-ROID has nothing to do with Deca or Tren and is a precursor to dienolone. True?

Does this mean it is not a progestin???

I don't have to protect against a progestin based gyno and using Nolva as a SERM is not a concern????

The famous deca d*ck is not a concern either, right??

How does it effect libido?

Who can shed some light on T-ROID???

Thanks in advance
~abuleh


T-ROID - It's a prohormone,a precursor to dienolone.Whether it's a progestin or not depends on who you ask,but it has been strongly linked to progestin based gyno,so you should bare that in mind.

I've done a cycle of T-roid [but not for cutting,for bulking] and used nolva and an AI in PCT without any problems.

Libido will probably be great for a week or two,but will drop dramaticly afterwards.You may well have difficulty keeping an erection,or reaching an orgasm.You will also probably be very dehydrated, without realizing it,so drink as much water as you can stomach and keep a pint of water by your bed at night-you'll need it!

It also hugely increases appetite,so that might be a problem for you if your cutting.It's great for strength gains as well.

I suggest you do a 6 wk cycle,no more as it will shut you down quite badly,also try it at 2 caps per day [say 8.00am and 5.00pm] for the first few days, then move up to 3 caps,maybe going up to 4 caps depending on results.Because its highly anabolic it might keep you awake at night,so try to dose evenly thru out the day,taking the last dose early evening[it has a half life of about 6 hours].

Hope that helps. Good luck!
 

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Thanks guys for tons of valuable information.

I will prepare my cycle very carefully to not run into any traps.

Libido on cycle:
Do you think adding something like halo could help on the libido side during cycle? I always had great libido on halo. I believe halo increases test.
I read people that run real "Tren" always add testo for that reason.

Wifey knows about the stuff I am taking but I don't want to send her to bed horny and wanna give her what she needs, if you know what I am saying ;-)
Without libido stuff like viagra and cialis wouldn't help much either.

Restore Libido after PCT:
I read that some even have problems restoring their libido weeks after PCT with T-Roid, even when their test levels are back on track after using a serm.

I also have Fenu, Maca, ZMA and rhodiola rosea was also recommended to me.

What else could you add during cycle and PCT? Proviron?

Edit: What could I add to prevent progestin based gyno? I know vitamin b6 or p-5-p does help (dosage? and when to start + how long to take after pct???)

Thanks

~abuleh
 
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Thanks guys for tons of valuable information.

I will prepare my cycle very carefully to not run into any traps.

Libido on cycle:
Do you think adding something like halo could help on the libido side during cycle? I always had great libido on halo. I believe halo increases test.
I read people that run real "Tren" always add testo for that reason.

Wifey knows about the stuff I am taking but I don't want to send her to bed horny and wanna give her what she needs, if you know what I am saying ;-)
Without libido stuff like viagra and cialis wouldn't help much either.

Restore Libido after PCT:
I read that some even have problems restoring their libido weeks after PCT with T-Roid, even when their test levels are back on track after using a serm.

I also have Fenu, Maca, ZMA and rhodiola rosea was also recommended to me.

What else could you add during cycle and PCT? Proviron?

Edit: What could I add to prevent progestin based gyno? I know vitamin b6 or p-5-p does help (dosage? and when to start + how long to take after pct???)

Thanks

~abuleh

P-5-P,L-Dopa and Cabergoline are effective for prolactin gyno.
You could take P-5-P while on cycle if you feel gyno coming on,to hold it at bay.
Fenu is good for libido in pct,do 3 grms before bed ED wk 1 and increase by 1 grm each wk for 3ks [4 wks total]

There's a gyno sticky at the front of this forum.

Libido on cycle will depend on the individual,the dosage and length of cycle.If you stick to 3 caps per day it might not be too bad.
 

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what about adding halo to the cycle at 50mg ed? Would that help on the libido side during the t-roid cycle ?
 

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what about adding halo to the cycle at 50mg ed? Would that help on the libido side during the t-roid cycle ?
No experience with halo so i can't say,but i dont think it would help much.Try doing a search.
 
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Halo will suppress you natty test levels just like any ph/ds would. Run proviron while on t-roid to keep your libido in check.
 
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25mg's is too low of a dose IMO i never ran 25mgs so i can't give you a solid answer on that. I don't see how 25mgs would raise your libido anyway. 50mgs will suppress you, how much you will be suppressed depends on the individual.

If you mean 25-50mg for the proviron then run 50mgs of proviron split ed. that's what i do and my libido isn't as high as usual but it's decent and nutting is not an issue.
 

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