"Steroid Lite" Cycle Ideas

SubliminalX

SubliminalX

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I might be in the minority here in that I'm not in it for bodybuilding in a classical sense, but more for athletic enhancement (MMA hobby), feeling good, and general health and fitness. Looking good in AND out of a shirt, having defined abs, etc. of course is a great bonus.

So my goals are more about maximizing muscle:fat ratio, continually improving functional strength, core strength, explosiveness, and endurance. I'm 5'10" 185, and pretty happy at this weight range. It offers me a good balance of size, power, and speed. I don't even know my max lifts because I haven't trained that way in over a year.

With that said, it's time for my next cycle:

Sustanon 250mg EW 1-12
H-DROL 100 mg ED 1-8
Arimi .5mg or Letro 0.25mg as needed 1-12
Mix in some AMP v1 or AMP v2 for additional fat burning
Torem PCT 13-17.

General diet: ~5000 cals ED (I don't literally count everyday). Anything less, on or off cycle, I lose weight. High protein, limit carbs mostly to before and after workouts.

H-DROL only cycles have been a breeze for me to recover from. Maybe a little Test wouldn't make recovery too much harder and help keep my mood up, since H-DROL basically has near zero androgenicity.

I'm trying to Google around for cycle ideas designed for track sprinters, football skill positions, and gymnasts.

Appreciate any ideas or general theories.
 
in my mind your cycle looks good for what you are looking for, maybe up the test some if you want to ~400 mg, but not required.
 
Testosterone is a good solution for general overall health and wellness. Im not a fan of sustanon, but for your goals, I think it is a good possibility....I wouldnt expect much weight gain from that dose, and especially since you're using arimidex with it. I have worked with MMA guys in the past, and have found that GH and an anabolic instead of an androgen work very well for that protocol.

holy
 
holyintellect said:
Testosterone is a good solution for general overall health and wellness. Im not a fan of sustanon, but for your goals, I think it is a good possibility....I wouldnt expect much weight gain from that dose, and especially since you're using arimidex with it. I have worked with MMA guys in the past, and have found that GH and an anabolic instead of an androgen work very well for that protocol.

holy
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The Sust dose can be bumped up a little mid cycle, depending on progress. 250mg EW should give me Test levels 2-3x my normal levels. With a milder anabolic like H-DROL, might get some good synergism in terms of performance.

When you say "anabolic instead of an androgen," what specifically do you have in mind?
 
I would drop the h-drol and the arimidex and go just with epistane. The epistane, for a lot of poeple who take test at least (im guessing this is real injectable sustanon) find that epistane keeps all of the bloat off. I know a guy personally who was taking .25mg a-dex per day and still felt bloated on 500mg test. He started his epistane for the last 4 weeks of his cycle and his words were "i pissed out about 6 pounds of water on the 2nd day of starting epistane". Said it took the bloat right off. Just an idea...run the epi instead of hdrol and arimidex...and keep the a-dex on hand just in case. You shouldnt need it on that dose of sust anyways.
 
nattydisaster said:
I would drop the h-drol and the arimidex and go just with epistane. The epistane, for a lot of poeple who take test at least (im guessing this is real injectable sustanon) find that epistane keeps all of the bloat off. I know a guy personally who was taking .25mg a-dex per day and still felt bloated on 500mg test. He started his epistane for the last 4 weeks of his cycle and his words were "i pissed out about 6 pounds of water on the 2nd day of starting epistane". Said it took the bloat right off. Just an idea...run the epi instead of hdrol and arimidex...and keep the a-dex on hand just in case. You shouldnt need it on that dose of sust anyways.
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Real deal injectable Test blend, not any of the OTC "Sus" orals. The Epi is a great idea. And I've been using AIs at various times since 2005 without any of the joint / libido issues that many report. Also kinda curious about the "euphoric" feeling associated with Epi. I gotta see family over the holidays.... I'm gonna need it!
 
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