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is it normal not to feeling anything 1st 2 weeks w/ epi

ryaroberts

ryaroberts

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ive been on e-stane (epi clone) for 2 weeks now and i feel nothing. weight nor strength has gone up. 1st week was 20mg and 2nd week is 30mg. im almost at my 3rd week. i dont even notice any recomp. is this normal? im trying to focus more on lean recomp than mass gain. am i dosing wrong? 20/30/30/40/40. is epi kinda like h-drol where it takes some time to kick in? thanks.
 
bump to 40mg and you should see some increased workout numbers. Its quite mild imo, i hardly felt anything below 40mg.
 
I am almost done with e stane and I didnt "feel" much until I bumped to 40mg/day. I put on weight with 20-30 but I decided to ramp up to 40 pretty quick which will only give my a 28 day cycle, I wish I had enough to run 40 for another week, or bump to 50 but live and learn. Deffinatly getting results using 40mg, holding weight now but getting more muscle definition and size while getting leaner.
 
Assuming for the sake of argument that its real, I agree with whats been posted, you are close to the 200lb mark(closer than someone who is 150lbs) and I have said time and again that the sweet spot of epi/havoc is 40mg for anyone close to 200lbs. This is ofcourse my opinion, but it seems to be proven over and over again. Let us know if you bump it up and start seeing some gains, I would honestly like to hear if you start having better results. Im pretty confident that you most likely will, again, assuming that its a real clone you have there. I have no experience with this clone. Good luck.
 
ryaroberts said:
ive been on e-stane (epi clone) for 2 weeks now and i feel nothing. weight nor strength has gone up. 1st week was 20mg and 2nd week is 30mg. im almost at my 3rd week. i dont even notice any recomp. is this normal? im trying to focus more on lean recomp than mass gain. am i dosing wrong? 20/30/30/40/40. is epi kinda like h-drol where it takes some time to kick in? thanks.
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I thought Epi/Havoc took 2 or 3 weeks to fully kick in anyway....and you continue to gain in PCT as well(At least I did).:think:
 
I didnt feel much until the end of the 2nd week/start of the 3rd which coincidently is the time I bumped it up to 40 mg. So yea what everyone said. I d bump to 40. I liked 50 even better. Honestly tho I didnt put on much weight at all, maybe a few pounds. Great strength gains tho.
 
Marsh11 said:
I didnt feel much until the end of the 2nd week/start of the 3rd which coincidently is the time I bumped it up to 40 mg. So yea what everyone said. I d bump to 40. I liked 50 even better. Honestly tho I didnt put on much weight at all, maybe a few pounds. Great strength gains tho.
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My most noticable gains were strength also:head:
 
ryaroberts said:
ive been on e-stane (epi clone) for 2 weeks now and i feel nothing. weight nor strength has gone up. 1st week was 20mg and 2nd week is 30mg. im almost at my 3rd week. i dont even notice any recomp. is this normal? im trying to focus more on lean recomp than mass gain. am i dosing wrong? 20/30/30/40/40. is epi kinda like h-drol where it takes some time to kick in? thanks.
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is estane the one by EST??

I think some of the clones are complete crap.... I know others will call me biased, and I may be, but you see results with the two big Epithios, Epistane and Havoc and only so-so if any results with practically all the clones.

I tried EST's and Id have to say I was like you, a week and a half in and felt nothing, switched to epi and within a couple days I was back to my normal epi results I was used to.
 
I took Epidrol and had great results for gyno reduction.

I would advise keeping it between 30-40mg. Run it for 5-6 weeks. Most noticeable results will start in Week 3. Epi was a very mild compound for me, and I didn't see any insane strength or size gains. I wouldn't get your hopes up there. Recomp will happen, though.
 
ryaroberts said:
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how soon to bump it up to 40 mg? i thought dosage is suppose to slowly increase over time?
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but if you arent feeling anything and the company's product begins to be questioned then you make exceptions to see if you even have the real thing.

i didnt add much weight either, i hardly ever do but i got good strength gains and recomp with epidrol. Loved 60mg but i probably dont respond as well as you anymore. bump to 40mg right now, you are practically wasting pills and time on by waiting.
 
bump it to 40 for last 2 weeks. im on my 5th week of a 6 week pct and i'm still gaining strength although my weight gains are leveling out. i am taking prime though, so i dont know. i did 30/30/40/40,
 
I think it depends on the person. My first Epi cycle 30/30/40/40 hit me hard and fast starting on day 2. I gained 17 lbs in 12 days. Size and strength increased fast. Most people say that it takes a few weeks, but for me it hit me fast, but then seemed to taper off after a couple of weeks.
 
DeathDealer said:
I think it depends on the person. My first Epi cycle 30/30/40/40 hit me hard and fast starting on day 2. I gained 17 lbs in 12 days. Size and strength increased fast. Most people say that it takes a few weeks, but for me it hit me fast, but then seemed to taper off after a couple of weeks.
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17lbs in 12 days????? wtf!? i still cant even imagine that..... wow.
 
I just think that I really react to PH's/DS's. I'm on my second cycle right now doing an H-Drol/Trenadrol stack for 6 weeks:

H-Drol 75/75/75/75/100/100
Trenadrol 60/60/90/90/90

I started out about 225 lbs. I'm in week 5 and right now I'm over 255 lbs. I'm sure some is water, glycogen, and a little fat, but I've added a tremendous amount of muscle, and my strength has gone up like crazy. My wife measured may arms yesterday and they grew 1.25 inches this cycle.

This is just my second cycle, but I really pack on the meat for some reason. Maybe it's my body type (I would say that I'm probably about 75% mesomorph, 25% endomorph), or some other factor. When I read about others gaining 5-10 lbs in a cycle it seems odd to me. I gain that in a week. Outside of a cycle, the gains are much more normal, maybe a pound a week at most.

Who knows? I just want to share my experiences, and it seems to be atypical. Maybe someone else has the same experience.
 
DeathDealer said:
I just think that I really react to PH's/DS's. I'm on my second cycle right now doing an H-Drol/Trenadrol stack for 6 weeks:

H-Drol 75/75/75/75/100/100
Trenadrol 60/60/90/90/90

I started out about 225 lbs. I'm in week 5 and right now I'm over 255 lbs. I'm sure some is water, glycogen, and a little fat, but I've added a tremendous amount of muscle, and my strength has gone up like crazy. My wife measured may arms yesterday and they grew 1.25 inches this cycle.

This is just my second cycle, but I really pack on the meat for some reason. Maybe it's my body type (I would say that I'm probably about 75% mesomorph, 25% endomorph), or some other factor. When I read about others gaining 5-10 lbs in a cycle it seems odd to me. I gain that in a week. Outside of a cycle, the gains are much more normal, maybe a pound a week at most.

Who knows? I just want to share my experiences, and it seems to be atypical. Maybe someone else has the same experience.
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This entire post is such BS I had to post this -----> :toofunny:
 
I personally like a 30/40/40/40/50/50 cycle myself followed by clomid @ 150/90/90/60 for four weeks... I see much more hardness when I hit 40mg...
 
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