These are the EXACT SAME COMPUOND:
TrenaPLEX Supplement Facts:
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 25mg
Trena Supplement Facts:
19-norandrosta 4, 9-diene-3, 17 dione 25mg
Do you see the similarities?...
Estra-4 is just another way of naming 19-norandrosta, neither of which are methylated. The guy you heard compare this to "methylated tren" was probably talkin about:
NAME: Oral Trenbolone (Metribolone)
Pharmaceutical Name: Methyltrienolone
Chemical structure: 17-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one,17b-ol
However these two compounds cannot and should not be compared. Some say that Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione is a "precursor" to trenbolone, and converts to tren in the body. However, Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione is only the base molecule for trenbolone. It's missing an additional double bond in the structure and the body does not have the capacity to insert this double bond (Patrick Arnold bb.com).
I'm not sayin the sh*t doesn't work, I've used Trena 3 times with great results. I'm just sayin in no way can it be compared to methylated tren. The sides you would get from it are horrendous. I've heard its way worse than M1T. IME the sides from Trena are not bad at all. Mild loss of libido as well as slight shut down. But thats about it. I usually use it in a cutting cycle with clenbuterol/T3 or stack it WITH a methylated PH like Superdrol or Halodrol. The gains from it alone are good too. You'll notice increased hardness, solid muscle gains, and great strength gains. IDK, give it a shot...
Just my 2 centavos.....