Kilosport's Methyl 1-test

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  1. Why are people pissed about the prices ? No one ever complains about the price of Avants PH gel when compared to a homebrew or BDC's. Eric took a big risk because he is I believe introducing a legal methylated steroid so he has the freedom to charge $100 a bottle if he wants since he introduced it first.

    Mike, I believe your wrong when you say Eric is ruining the PH industry, he would have really damaged if he advertised on mainstream magazines like VPX. BTW, IMO the industry will be shut down and it won't be all Erci's fault. This is mostly underground stuff so chances are some 16 year old kid won't get his hands on it and run an endless cycle of 50 mg.

    BTW, it cracks me up seeing people posting that they "feel robbed" because that's not the case. Consumers are free to make their own decisions, if $80 a bottle is not worth it to you don't buy it. But now some can go buy it at Kilo, so weigh in your options.

    As far as jelaousy goes; I think there's something to it, but jelaousy is normal 'cause I'm pretty damm jelaous about my co-worker who has the hottest chick I've ever seen and I'm bigger than him so I feel I deserve a hotter chick than him LOL.


  2. [qutoe]Mike, I believe your wrong when you say Eric is ruining the PH industry, he would have really damaged if he advertised on mainstream magazines like VPX. BTW, IMO the industry will be shut down and it won't be all Erci's fault. This is mostly underground stuff so chances are some 16 year old kid won't get his hands on it and run an endless cycle of 50 mg.[/quote]

    No 1 person will ruin anything. It takes a good combo of things for all this to occur. It is easy to say as a consumer that none of this matters. When you are sitting in front of a group of people from congress trying to explain how we don't need all this regulation, only to have methylation brought into the mix, it makes things quite a bit harder. Anyone with a little cash flow can have a "supplement company" now. These companies go around with no insurance, haphazard styles and have the chance to ruin it for the everyone else. Even when I was small, I STILL got product coverage on what I had. At the time it cost me 8k bucks. Granted I didn't pay myself for 6 months, but I thought it was the right thing to do. Just annoying that is all.
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  3. Originally posted by 1Fast400
    Just annoying that is all.
    I see your point, especially since you shelled out 15K to save and I highly respect that, but give Eric a break. I think he has been unfairly criticized, just all I wanted to say.

  4. Yeah, lets let it die

  5. Originally posted by chemikill
    Pro told [email protected] that mike said he wasnt going to carry it
    yup for liability purposes is what mike told me..
    PharmD
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  6. In reply to Chemo

    My statement was if it is THE SAME (as in pressed pills) for that cheap, I would lose respect for legal gear. I use to do purchasing for "custom" made products for tech firms. When we made a "new" product, we had contracts that stipulated that the manufacturing plants where not allowed to produce the same product for another person.

    If legal gear paved the way, they didn't do a very good job at keeping other from riding their coat tails and killing their bottom line.

  7. Originally posted by conversekidz
    In reply to Chemo

    My statement was if it is THE SAME (as in pressed pills) for that cheap, I would lose respect for legal gear. I use to do purchasing for "custom" made products for tech firms. When we made a "new" product, we had contracts that stipulated that the manufacturing plants where not allowed to produce the same product for another person.

    If legal gear paved the way, they didn't do a very good job at keeping other from riding their coat tails and killing their bottom line.
    Well if you actually read what they sold, its capsules not pressed tabs. LG doesn't have the patent on the substance so how is going to stop others from buying it from China and selling it in powder or capsule form?


    Also could you please show where Eric said he was keeping costs down?
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  8. All I have to say on the matter is that LegalGear is a business. Business's are there to make a profit. Eric is not your best friend trying to hook you up, he's the owner of a supplement business that sell's most of his products for a very competitive price. He took risk to bring this to the front lines and he should reap it's benefits.

    Supply and demand, he saw an opportunity to bring you bro's what you wanted and make some change doing it. Everyone win's you get your M1T and he improves his business's profit margin. So, everyone go take all this energy your exerting into whining and apply it to making your body grow, which is what were all trying to do.

  9. I bought 8 bottles ($60 per) from LG because of all the positive cycle results. And its damn well worth it. Remember, we haven't seen a single person report on a Kilosports cycle.....maybe its too early, maybe not. Another factor in my decision to get the last 4 bottles from LG, is that the ONLY non-responder we have seen from M 1-T (posts on another board) DIDN'T use LGs product. I think that says alot.

  10. few quick ones, i've been away doing military stuff the last week or so

    1. whats the thb issue

    2. has anyone tested this other stuff to make sure its good?

    3. if it is, will legalgear lower their prices, keep it as it is, be done with it or whats the future of this eric? just curious...

    thx

  11. Im also curious to know if the kilo sport stuff is working out as well as LGs brand. Would it make a difference if its in cap form vs tablet?

  12. Originally posted by Cruehead
    Im also curious to know if the kilo sport stuff is working out as well as LGs brand. Would it make a difference if its in cap form vs tablet?
    caps are not different from tabs.. both store as long and both work as well.

  13. Originally posted by spoofy
    caps are not different from tabs.. both store as long and both work as well.
    But you are not taking into account some very distinct advantages of having a tablet.
    • Tablets can be split if needed. Let's say a dose of 5 mg is desired (for morning/night dosing). Can you split a capsule?
    • Tablets say quality. Anyone can process a short run of capsules but tablet pressing has minimum numbers. If they are capsules there is no assurance that they were not hand processed.
    • If one had hopes of moving this through the UG than tablets are a MUST.
    • Capsules are more prone to humidity damage. Over the course of a year or more tablets will fair better in a humid environment (coastal communities, etc).

  14. Originally posted by Chemo
    Capsules are more prone to humidity damage. Over the course of a year or more tablets will fair better in a humid environment (coastal communities, etc). [/list]
    Good considering I have enough for around 50 cycles =)

  15. Originally posted by Chemo
    [*]Tablets say quality. Anyone can process a short run of capsules but tablet pressing has minimum numbers. If they are capsules there is no assurance that they were not hand processed. [*]If one had hopes of moving this through the UG than tablets are a MUST.
    [/list]
    Two important points made..

    You'll never know if Kilo is just dumping M1T powder in a vat of cornstarch, then running it thru a Cap-'em-Quick..

    Besides, you really think that if it did go UG that people would go for caps? Think about why Andriol is so cheap..

  16. Originally posted by Chemo

    But you are not taking into account some very distinct advantages of having a tablet.
    • Tablets can be split if needed. Let's say a dose of 5 mg is desired (for morning/night dosing). Can you split a capsule?
    • Tablets say quality. Anyone can process a short run of capsules but tablet pressing has minimum numbers. If they are capsules there is no assurance that they were not hand processed.
    • If one had hopes of moving this through the UG than tablets are a MUST.
    • Capsules are more prone to humidity damage. Over the course of a year or more tablets will fair better in a humid environment (coastal communities, etc).
    YEAH!


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  17. Tablet keeping longer is the biggest advantage. Since phs being around legally is uncertain.

  18. What a lot of people are forgetting here (regarding the prices charged by legalgear) is that when M1T first came out, no one knew if it would work or have toxicity issues. EDog was taking a big risk that it would even sell . . . and that it would remain legal to sell. Further, in many threads 1Fast400 is claiming that someone is going to lock him up for selling it. (Notice that he will still not sell any, although the reasons have changed over the last couple of months.) Anyway, viking and Chemo nailed it. Legalgear approached this by making a business decision. Frankly, if I was in his position (I am not in this industry), I would have charged more. Let's face it, a cycle (two weeks) at 10g/day of M1T would cost what, less than $20? Since when is that a high price? Compare that to running a six-week cycle of 1-AD.

  19. And 1AD can be bought for about $1 a gram in bulk.....
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  20. Well then Pat Arnold must be ripping people off. Of course I'm kidding.

  21. i guess it s all a matter of economic theory, if we can get 1 ad for 1$ per gram then we pay Mr arnold for the service of putting it in convenient packages and smaller quantities so we dont hav eto buy whole kilos of it. Is it worth it? That is for the individual consumer to decide.

  22. Most prohormones are cheap as hell to get. AAS is even cheaper. IF you want to get mad about mark ups then order a pizza. It cost about 20 cents to make.
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  23. Damn dominoes and pizza hut, those bastards!

  24. Originally posted by sifu
    Damn dominoes and pizza hut, those bastards!
    LOL. That's the reason I "homebrew" my own pizza--to keep from being screwed by them.

  25. Originally posted by Klaus
    The markup on tacos isn't as bad as pizzas.
    LMFAO, yeah they're only 99 cents at Jack in the box

  26. Originally posted by Iron Warrior

    LMFAO, yeah they're only 99 cents at Jack in the box
    Damn, I need a new source.. Taco Bell is raping me, and I don't even get a hug!

  27. Originally posted by bigpetefox


    Damn, I need a new source.. Taco Bell is raping me, and I don't even get a hug!

    ::hugs bigpetefox::


    edit: WTF is a jack in the box?! i remember, waaay back when, when taco beel taco's used to be .59$.

  28. Jack in the Box is a West Coast thing, I believe..

  29. Must be as I've never been out to the west coast. Kinda like an In and Out burger?

  30. Jack in the BOX is more like burger king than In and Out.. In and Out is the ****
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