Kilosport's Methyl 1-test

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  1. mike... how bout you sell some powder and/or caps?


  2. Originally posted by 1Fast400


    That is an ignorant statement. At its absolute PEAK in price, M1T was 8500 bucks a kilo. This make the raw material in a bottle 7 bucks, I know who bottled Eric's stuff and I know how much it cost. To say there is some crazy expense involved is just a flat out lie. Neither of these companies have insurance on this item, so I can't possibly imagine what other great expense you have.




    So he should jack up the prices of all his products because he has those mouths to feed.




    Making 30 bucks a bottle is not cutting throats. I don't think a single person here or anywhere would have a problem with a margin like this. Doubling that margin for your "bro's" might come off a little different.




    You are right, there is nothing wrong with what he did. It is a free country to sell an item at what people are willing to pay. Just don't act like your th savior to the people in regards to pricing.
    1. Then kindly tell how much it would cost to hard press a kilo of this stuff. Last time I checked they did have labels and they were tabs, not powder filled capsules. It cost something.

    2. He can jack it up to the moon of he wants. He was the only one selling it and people would gladly pay $80 for a 40 days supply.

    3. First of all you don't know what quality the powder since even the first shipments contained extreme amounts of impurities. You do know it takes time and money to test them, send them back, and test them again to makes sure your not putting a contaminated product out there. I'm sure your aware of those costs Mike since you seem to test many products.

    Mike you criticized people for selling it the first place saying its ruining the industry, then decided to sell it posting threads over at Avant informing people it will be in, then did a 180 and said you weren't going to sell it and the criticism appeared again. So whats the deal? Why the change of heart? Is it the legality issues and risk involved? If so, then there's LG's extra expense.
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  3. Mike you criticized people for selling it the first place saying its ruining the industry, then decided to sell it posting threads over at Avant informing people it will be in, then did a 180 and said you weren't going to sell it and the criticism appeared again. So whats the deal? Why the change of heart? Is it the legality issues and risk involved? If so, then there's LG's extra expense.

    Before the THG issue came out, it did cross my mind. Knowing the unreal margin that was being made with this material made it very attractive. Once the THG issue came out, with some other matters dealing in regards to the legal issues of PH/PS, I decided against it. When this item is used against the industry as a sign of no regulation/self restraint and we lose any chance with saving any PH's, maybe then you'll understand my disgust for this. I've donated around 15k bucks and time to the defense of PH, to see it being pissed away because someone is doing this, annoys me. All the cool little pictures of neat cows and post in regards to your big goats, isn't going to do a damn thing when the government comes in. It is heartbreaking to see the amount of time and work put in just to see it ruined by a few that want to make a buck (or I should say 70 bucks a bottle)

  4. So in essence your mad he's making money off a product you would of sold (if it wasn't for the THG issue). I think thats what it boils down too.
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  5. Would capsules keep longer than hard tablets or vice versa?
    I'm abit peeved at finding out how much the margin was...wouldn't blame Legalg too much though because I wouldn't know how much extra it would cost to press it into tablets. Basically just irritated that capsules would sell for alot less and I should have held off purchasing it till later...
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  6. People can be upset all they want. But I hopld no beef about it. In fact I will keep buying from him. Why? Well the customer service was good, the product works, and he was honest.

    He is taking the risk on the product with legalities and such, so he has the right to charge what he wants, all the people bitching on here didn't want to manufacture the tablets, or pay the upfront money for other things that are involed.

    Who nows if the capsules will work? No one, it will be new just like legal was. But for now and always, I will stay with legal, I listed my reasons above. If the rest of you don't like it, and only want the cheapest of any product out there.

    Go buy a ****ing Kia and don't bitch when it doesn't run as well, or as long as my Honda.

  7. So in essence your mad he's making money off a product you would of sold (if it wasn't for the THG issue). I think thats what it boils down too.

    Come on bobo, you are smarter than that. I assume you can read. I could have the product in my hands, bottled and labeled in 3 weeks if I wanted at any time. It comes down to trying to protect what little part of the industry we have right now. To me, it is more important to try to save some of the products we are all making money off of.

    So what it boils down to, is that greed for some is going to speed the process up of industry regulation.

  8. Greed for some Mike? You yourself were going to sell the product if it wasn't for the THG scandal. You were going to do the same thing as LG was. Anyone can get the product, bottled and labeled if they wanted to bad enough. There must of been something you liked if you were going to sell it. Don't get upset because Eric is taking the risk and making the money.

    Don't try to come off like your on some moral high ground refusing to sell it. You were going to sell it and if it wasn't for the THG scandal it would be on your site right now for probably a little less as to entice customers to buy from you.


    You run a fantastic business Mike and IMO are the most reliable and customer friendly service available, but don't act like your not just as greedy as the next guy.
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  9. Originally posted by Bobo
    would of sold
    Goddamit Bob, for the last time it's would have or would've. Would of, should of, could of, do not exist in my language.

  10. Greed for some Mike? You yourself were going to sell the product if it wasn't for the THG scandal. You were going to do the same thing as LG was. Anyone can get the product, bottled and labeled if they wanted to bad enough. There must of been something you liked if you were going to sell it. Don't get upset because Eric is taking the risk and making the money.
    Jesus, I know you are not totally stupid, but you are doing your best to convince me otherwise.

    Don't try to come off like your on some moral high ground refusing to sell it. You were going to sell it and if it wasn't for the THG scandal it would be on your site right now for probably a little less as to entice customers to buy from you.
    See above response


    You run a fantastic business Mike and IMO are the most reliable and customer friendly service available, but don't act like your not just as greedy as the next guy.
    If I was all about money and nothing else, I can assure you I would run a totally different operation. When you come to your senses on some of this stuff you'll understand why I'm not selling it. You obviously have some bias here, which is cool. Please, refrain from making any more comments about why I'm not selling it and so on when you obviously can't read/understand my previous post which address this. I'm done.

  11. I understood it, all, and Bobo is correct. Jealousy is a bitch. Just because my neighbor makes more than me, doesn't mean I have it out for him and what he does. I think you just don't like Bobo's answer. Nuff said

  12. Bobo and I will just agree to disagree.

    I keep laughing at you all saying jealousy. Please remind me of this jealousy in 6 months if you would.

  13. Will do

  14. Stupid Mike? No thats what you assume everyone else is. I'm not stupid, I just see your bull**** sometimes.

    First you badmouth it because everyone else does, including Pat in which you alsways seem to agree with.

    Then you see how much money you can make so you decide to sell it and inform everyone you are doing so.

    Then you have some sort of revelation that this will be the downfall of the PH industry (yeah right)

    Thats the breakdown of it Mike and you can come on here and try to bull**** everyone thinking your taking some high ground because it will save the PH industry. If you were so concerned about that in the first place you would HAVE (scotty) never even thought about selling it.

    You always change your story to fit what is right at the time, which always seem to change with you.

    If you really want to see if I'm stupid then we can debate on many other subjects including the dangers of several products you sell. You've already showed your interest in dermals, so we can discuss that if you'd like.
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  15. Im not trying to get involved in this arguement, and this si in no way directed towards anyone, but...

    I taked to mike about coming out wiht methyl-1test weeks before the THG scandal appeared, he at that time expressed his concerns and decided not to sell it. I jsu thtouhg I would let ou guys know this.

    Again, I am not taking sides here, jsut giving my opinion...

  16. Originally posted by 1Fast400
    Bobo and I will just agree to disagree.

    I keep laughing at you all saying jealousy. Please remind me of this jealousy in 6 months if you would.
    We just repeated what you already proved. It pissed you off.

    In 6 months you will be fine Mike, we all know that. You are a GREAT business man, but don't try and sound like your some angel in the supplement industry.
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  17. Originally posted by nsruffryder34
    Im not trying to get involved in this arguement, and this si in no way directed towards anyone, but...

    I taked to mike about coming out wiht methyl-1test weeks before the THG scandal appeared, he at that time expressed his concerns and decided not to sell it. I jsu thtouhg I would let ou guys know this.

    Again, I am not taking sides here, jsut giving my opinion...
    He always expressed concerns, as did many people. But he's the one who said it was going to be available "next week" on Avant. That time wasn't literal.
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  18. Thats right, I jsut remembereed that,
    Thats when I emailed him about a week after he psoted that and we talked through it. He told me he thouhgt it was too risky and didnt want to go for it. Now he is trying to say it was because he didnt want to jeopordize the industry, which Im not sure is true.
    I have respect for mike and eric, so I really cant say anthing negative about them. Im jsut telling what i know...

  19. None of this effects how I "feel" about any of them. The industry itself seems to be survival of the fittest. I've already commented on how I think Mike runs the best site out there and what he says here won't change that. I still recommend him to many people. I don't think any of them to be dishonest in any way, but all of them will express their opinions to make themselves look better than the next guy. Thats just business.

    And you know thats true Mike.
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  20. Originally posted by 1Fast400


    You obviously have some bias here, which is cool.
    If that doesn't take the cake. I suggest you ask Eric how he feels about me right now Mike. I've been bashing for the last 3 days over methyl 4AD. I don't have a bias, I call it how I see it.
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  21. Thats the breakdown of it Mike and you can come on here and try to bull**** everyone thinking your taking some high ground because it will save the PH industry. If you were so concerned about that in the first place you would HAVE (scotty) never even thought about selling it.

    Heaven forbid someone get educated along the way. When I was informed of the issues that are going to come up with m1t, I decided to stay away from it. Up to that point, your damn right I was ready to sell it. The profit is crazy in it. When I realized it would hurt our fight in regards to saving a few pro hormones, a fight I've given a lot of money to, I knew I couldn't do it.

    Bottom line, we just see different on this deal. I hate you might look at me in a different light. I admit I lost my cool a little bit. I just hate thinking I wasted 15,000 bucks towards to the defense of pro hormones when it can be ruined so easily. I have no jealously towards eric. He just got burnt on some foreign credit card stuff, not a fun place to be. I can imagine his eyes upon seeing an order for 50 (usually the quantites they use) 10lb protein bags or something. Foreign credit fraud is crazy, luckily we are able to prevent 99.9% of it. Anyway off topic, in the end a price will be paid for cashing the cow (no pun intended).

    Mike

  22. Just curios. 1fast. Like others I have ordered from you, and I always get great service. However I am wondering why you are on this beef with how methyl1-test is going to ruin it for us all. Please elaborate.

  23. Mike, i'm quite shocked at the way you act on these boards and how you treat your customers that put a grand in your pocket every couple of months, maybe i haven't payed enough attention as i simply didn't care before about this supplement company bull**** bashing but then i was called out on it. Needless to say, i'll shop elsewhere from now on.

  24. Mike, i'm quite shocked at the way you act on these boards and how you treat your customers that put a grand in your pocket every couple of months, maybe i haven't payed enough attention as i simply didn't care before about this supplement company bull**** bashing but then i was called out on it. Needless to say, i'll shop elsewhere from now on.
    Regardless of customers status on my site, I will always refute statements that I feel are wrong, sorry if you don't like that. I pointed out blantent problems in your earlier statements.

    Sifu, I have posted numerous times on that topic, I'm eating lunch right now and don't really feel like typing it out all again.

  25. So give me a link instead of dancing around the issue.
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