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    near final draft hdrol cycle and pct, please review and comment


    You all been very helpful. Sorry if im a pain in the ass, just want to do it right. heres my rough final draft cycle and pct plan. please comment on suggestions. By the way, this is my first ph. 33 years old, 200 lbs. Looking to put on some bulk muscle, not too worried about abs or cut just yet!

    CEL Hdrol
    50,50,50,75,75
    AI Cycle support
    milk thistle (pre loaded)
    Hawthorn Berry (pre loaded)
    Soy lecithin (pre loaded)
    Emergenc anti oxident drink mix
    omega 3 fish oil

    PCT
    AI Post Cycle Support
    6oxo (thinking 500,400,300,100)
    milk thistle
    Hawthorn Berry
    Soy lecithin
    Emergenc anti oxident lot of vit c drink mix
    omega 3 fish oil
    liver support


    Im gunna have nolva on hand with no plans to include it in pct (good idea or bad?)
    Do you think i need an additional test booster for pct? if so taper down dosage as 6oxo? Do you think i have covered all bases?
    Thanks for input yall.

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    I would make it 75-75-100-100-100. 50mg is too weak IMO.
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    ok. does pct look solid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marine8152 View Post
    ok. does pct look solid?
    May want to taper the 60x0 the other way (low to high).
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    thanks for your opinion bro. what ya think of another test booster for pct and dose the nolva or keep it handy in case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marine8152 View Post
    You all been very helpful. Sorry if im a pain in the ass, just want to do it right. heres my rough final draft cycle and pct plan. please comment on suggestions. By the way, this is my first ph. 33 years old, 200 lbs. Looking to put on some bulk muscle, not too worried about abs or cut just yet!

    CEL Hdrol
    50,50,50,75,75
    AI Cycle support
    milk thistle (pre loaded)
    Hawthorn Berry (pre loaded)
    Soy lecithin (pre loaded)
    Emergenc anti oxident drink mix
    omega 3 fish oil

    PCT
    AI Post Cycle Support
    6oxo (thinking 500,400,300,100)
    milk thistle
    Hawthorn Berry
    Soy lecithin
    Emergenc anti oxident lot of vit c drink mix
    omega 3 fish oil
    liver support


    Im gunna have nolva on hand with no plans to include it in pct (good idea or bad?)
    Do you think i need an additional test booster for pct? if so taper down dosage as 6oxo? Do you think i have covered all bases?
    Thanks for input yall.



    Looks pretty good

    May want think about adding anti-cort into PCT(in 3rd wk)?

    I've never run H-drol(planning on it soon though), but apparently it is a PH with vary low side. Most likely won't need nolva, but as long as you got it on hand(just in case) you should be fine.

    Might want to hold off on 6-oxo until 3 or 4 weeks into pct.
    Your starting dosage may be a little high for H-Drol, but it certainly can't hurt

    Good Luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post
    Looks pretty good

    May want think about adding anti-cort into PCT(in 3rd wk)?

    I've never run H-drol(planning on it soon though), but apparently it is a PH with vary low side. Most likely won't need nolva, but as long as you got it on hand(just in case) you should be fine.

    Might want to hold off on 6-oxo until 3 or 4 weeks into pct.
    Your starting dosage may be a little high for H-Drol, but it certainly can't hurt

    Good Luck
    Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Huh?

    Let me rephrase...your starting dosage of 6-oxo may be a little on the high side(500 mgs. not necessary),but it won't hurt
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post
    Let me rephrase...your starting dosage of 6-oxo may be a little on the high side(500 mgs. not necessary),but it won't hurt
    Ahhh, ok.. I said the same thing. At the start of pct there is next to no estrogen in the system anyway, so very little AI is needed the first 2 weeks. I would do this with the 6 oxo....

    week1 100mg

    week2 300mg

    week3 400mg

    week4 500mg

    week5 100mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Ahhh, ok.. I said the same thing. At the start of pct there is next to no estrogen in the system anyway, so very little AI is needed the first 2 weeks. I would do this with the 6 oxo....

    week1 100mg

    week2 300mg

    week3 400mg

    week4 500mg

    week5 100mg

    Interesting.....

    It makes sense...i am still toying with my phera PCT..this could be a good option. I guess the question here is"do you really need both PCs and 6-oxo for the first couple of weeks of PCT?" Even if it is a small dosage-will it accomplish anything?
    Although, by adding into the body at a small dosage it is allowing the body to absorb and get use to it. So by the time the largest amount of estrogen is present...it(6-oxo) is well in the system and at its most potent dosage.

    I see...not a bad idea
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    I started cycle yesturday. gunna go with 50 first week, 75,75 than 100,100. thanks for advice all. iam thinking of adding a anti cortisol in pct as partyman suggested. and running nolva. i read that antioxidents are a cortisol controller, ya think thats sufficient?

    whats your opinion?
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    you guys do know that 6oxo doesnt LOWER estrogen, its been shown to keep it the same. while keeping SHBG the same and estroidal the same..

    if you use 6oxo use some bromo as well. and i wouldnt go higher then 300mg on the 6oxo (but thats just me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marine8152 View Post
    I started cycle yesturday. gunna go with 50 first week, 75,75 than 100,100. thanks for advice all. iam thinking of adding a anti cortisol in pct as partyman suggested. and running nolva. i read that antioxidents are a cortisol controller, ya think thats sufficient?

    whats your opinion?
    Most people I know run Dhea 25-50mg first thing in the morning during pct to combat cortisol. Much cheaper than anti-cort supps. A low dose of clenbuterol is also a good idea.
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    thanks Tripdog. You have been very helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Most people I know run Dhea 25-50mg first thing in the morning during pct to combat cortisol. Much cheaper than anti-cort supps. A low dose of clenbuterol is also a good idea.

    Can't beat the overall ingredients of lean extreme...Has always worked good for me...of course i always like to lean out anyways in PCT. But if money is an issue....you gotta do what you gotta due
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post
    Can't beat the overall ingredients of lean extreme...Has always worked good for me...of course i always like to lean out anyways in PCT. But if money is an issue....you gotta do what you gotta due
    I agree, but its grossly overpriced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    I agree, but its grossly overpriced.

    What supp really isn't.......Uhoh I shouldn't have said that(ha,ha)
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    Trip. this was my PCT for a 5 week hdrol run. Everything was good and had no sides at all. Did a lot of research and seemed lots of people tapered the 6-oxo down starting in week4...although there are other opinions on this too....

    PCT: (4weeks)

    Post Cycle Support(stoked) : 4 caps/day
    Lean Xtreme: 3/day (start day 15)
    I3C : 600 mgs/ed
    6-oxo: tapered down starting in week 4--300/200/100/100

    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Ahhh, ok.. I said the same thing. At the start of pct there is next to no estrogen in the system anyway, so very little AI is needed the first 2 weeks. I would do this with the 6 oxo....

    week1 100mg

    week2 300mg

    week3 400mg

    week4 500mg

    week5 100mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    Trip. this was my PCT for a 5 week hdrol run. Everything was good and had no sides at all. Did a lot of research and seemed lots of people tapered the 6-oxo down starting in week4...although there are other opinions on this too....

    PCT: (4weeks)

    Post Cycle Support(stoked) : 4 caps/day
    Lean Xtreme: 3/day (start day 15)
    I3C : 600 mgs/ed
    6-oxo: tapered down starting in week 4--300/200/100/100

    What dosage did you run the 5 week hdrol cycle at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Ahhh, ok.. I said the same thing. At the start of pct there is next to no estrogen in the system anyway, so very little AI is needed the first 2 weeks. I would do this with the 6 oxo....

    week1 100mg

    week2 300mg

    week3 400mg

    week4 500mg

    week5 100mg
    I understand why you don't taper 6-oxo down but just a concern, why do you taper it up? what's the benefit of that?

    Thanx
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    Sorry, i just got your message. I am running it as follows

    75/75/75/75/100 (just to finish out the bottle). I would run the last 2 weeks at 100mg, but I dont have enough, so i will just stick with the last week at 100mg.

    PCT is the same as above what i posted.

    so far, so good

    Quote Originally Posted by marine8152 View Post
    What dosage did you run the 5 week hdrol cycle at?
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    i would seriously consider upping the h drol doses and bridging over to epi (30/30/30/40) or s drol (20/20/30/30) 2 weeks from the end of your hdrol cycle.

    if your a newbie it dosent matter. h drol is too mild to run alone. by the 3d week you will realise it just "hype" and im predicting that you will want to add a kick to a dissapointing cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvo View Post
    i would seriously consider upping the h drol doses and bridging over to epi (30/30/30/40) or s drol (20/20/30/30) 2 weeks from the end of your hdrol cycle.

    if your a newbie it dosent matter. h drol is too mild to run alone. by the 3d week you will realise it just "hype" and im predicting that you will want to add a kick to a dissapointing cycle.

    just my 2 cents bro- dont let my neg rep fool you- i rub people up the wrong way- thats the way i roll
    this is his first cycle, there's no need to bridge to Epi or Superdrol. If it's disappointing then he should run a higher dose. Hdrol is weak stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    this is his first cycle, there's no need to bridge to Epi or Superdrol. If it's disappointing then he should run a higher dose. Hdrol is weak stuff.
    try reading my post again then you will realise what you have said makes no sense

    If it's disappointing then he should run a higher dose- yes, i have already said this.

    Hdrol is weak stuff- hence he will be dissapointed with the hrol, therefore bridge over
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvo View Post
    i would seriously consider upping the h drol doses and bridging over to epi (30/30/30/40) or s drol (20/20/30/30) 2 weeks from the end of your hdrol cycle.

    if your a newbie it dosent matter. h drol is too mild to run alone. by the 3d week you will realise it just "hype" and im predicting that you will want to add a kick to a dissapointing cycle.

    just my 2 cents bro- dont let my neg rep fool you- i rub people up the wrong way- thats the way i roll


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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvo View Post
    try reading my post again then you will realise what you have said makes no sense

    If it's disappointing then he should run a higher dose- yes, i have already said this.

    Hdrol is weak stuff- hence he will be dissapointed with the hrol, therefore bridge over

    Everyone reacts to PHs differently...right. I have heard some people gained nicely on H-drol. I say it is a great way to go for a first Ph cycle...honestly you really can't beat it(IMO).
    I think that a 5 weeks cycle at those dosages would give descent results.
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    Well, im sorry to inform you, but you are incorrect here on this. Hdrol will do some pretty good things if you combine it with a great diet and run it 4-5 weeks at 50/50/50/50 or even 75/75/75/100/100, depending on experience. No need to add or bridge w/anything if you are a newbie. Trust me, i know from experience (and have pics to prove it....im 34yr of age also)

    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvo View Post
    i would seriously consider upping the h drol doses and bridging over to epi (30/30/30/40) or s drol (20/20/30/30) 2 weeks from the end of your hdrol cycle.

    if your a newbie it dosent matter. h drol is too mild to run alone. by the 3d week you will realise it just "hype" and im predicting that you will want to add a kick to a dissapointing cycle.

    just my 2 cents bro- dont let my neg rep fool you- i rub people up the wrong way- thats the way i roll
  

  
 

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