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  1. Originally posted by 1Fast400
      However, when you repeat a whole paragragh exactly the way I said it, it's a little different

    <DIV>LMAO, it was a phone conversation! Let me guess, I recorded it and then transcribed it&nbsp;word for word! HA HA HA!!! Mike, keep going please, your wiping away your own credibility before my very eyes! Let everyone see!!!</DIV>


  2. Originally posted by 1Fast400



    Um proof?
    Your favorite card to play. Hey bros, how many times has he called for this at bb.com on different issues regarding himself, while not requiring it from Par in regards to BDC? In some circles it's called Hypocrisy.
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  3. Originally posted by 1Fast400



    Ahh yes you are right wind, you just left out the part about how you DIDN'T do this till I pointed the fact out to you that you repeated my words. That isn't a big deal honestly. However, when you repeat a whole paragragh exactly the way I said it, it's a little different
    Those posts were from months, and months ago at bb.com. Like I said you weren't the only guy who got me thinking but you did help seal up the process for me. Now end of subject or I will again close another thread.

  4. It is always fun to ask you guys for proof because you never come up with any. Anyway check the R&D thread wind...I'm done


    see ya!

  5. OK Bro's now lets stay ON topic and away from personal BS once and&nbsp;for all. Take it to PM's.
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  6. Mike there&nbsp; is 1000's of articles on DMSO.There is even one in the 2 threads on bb.com saying that even at 2% concentration DMSO will signifigantly increase penetration...&nbsp; And Mike please quit starting ****..... Thanx.. Talk to ya...

    PS Of course you and Par will downplay DMSO but i do find it funny how many people using Avant Stuff and putting DMSO in it... hehehehe. The customer is always right... Talk to ya..

    &nbsp;
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  7. Originally posted by YellowJacket


    . It seems Mike and his Avant boys are out to cause drama on our board.
    Glad to see you decided to stick around, this board needs you.

    That said, I hope you are not including me in this group. Posting valid criticism is a far cry from stirring up ****. Right Jake?

    Or will this thread get locked too?

  8. Dio yesterday was very crazy for some reason. The YJ yesterday was an imposter as far as I can tell. It was BPP screwing with us... I don't know how he does it but..... Dio stick around you are full of info just waiting to help noobies.hehehe... Seriously the **** got way to high yesterday.. The threads were closed because of personal attackes and the threads were going no where.... Everything has cooled off today i hope and things will once again be very cool to be here...

    My apologies to everyone affected by yesterdays ****..... Talk to ya....
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  9. Originally posted by Dio


    Glad to see you decided to stick around, this board needs you.

    That said, I hope you are not including me in this group. Posting valid criticism is a far cry from stirring up ****. Right Jake?

    Or will this thread get locked too?
    Dio, come on bro. Of course you post valid criticisim, just not personal insutls, name calling, etc. Dio, your a good bro, we go back along way, I have NO problems with you. I'm glad your here. Let's just keep it on track.

  10. Originally posted by curt2go
    Dio yesterday was very crazy for some reason. The YJ yesterday was an imposter as far as I can tell. It was BPP screwing with us... I don't know how he does it but..... Dio stick around you are full of info just waiting to help noobies.hehehe... Seriously the **** got way to high yesterday.. The threads were closed because of personal attackes and the threads were going no where.... Everything has cooled off today i hope and things will once again be very cool to be here...

    My apologies to everyone affected by yesterdays ****..... Talk to ya....
    Curt,

    I have no problem with you or how you handle things. Once again, I appreciate your sentiments. I understand that you guys want to cut down on the trouble on this board but locking threads and deleting posts is not always the best way to go about it. Especially when those things are done selectively; that's one of things that caused the meltdown at bb.com. I would hate to see it here, but it looks like it's already starting.

    There's a big difference between spreading ****, and expressing your anger. Sometimes things get heated and people need to blow off steam. The tough part is to know when to intervene; IMO you guys dropped the ball on that one.

    I would like to see everything be cool too, but if I see stuff I'm going to point it out. If that's unacceptable, then tell me and I'll leave. Just remember the reasons you guys gave for creating this site in the first place.

  11. Point well taken. Thanx... Talk to ya....
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  12. Originally posted by windwords7


    Dio, come on bro. Of course you post valid criticisim, just not personal insutls, name calling, etc. Dio, your a good bro, we go back along way, I have NO problems with you. I'm glad your here. Let's just keep it on track.
    Jake,

    You initiated the insults. Do you remember that? Do you remember why I went off? I have had no problems with you until yesterday; I think you're a decent guy. However, I think that you abused your position yesterday. I'm not trying to start a fight -- I'm pointing out what I think is wrong. As a mod you have certain responsibilities, one of which is to remain as objective as possible.

    No one (especially not me) expects you to be perfect, but you should learn from your mistakes. When things get off track, sometimes they need to be righted and sometimes things need to run their course. As I stated above, it's a judgement call that should be made as objectively as possible. Also rememer that I started a new thread to address my concerns and that was locked too.

    Your decisions appeared to made because of your personal feelings on the subject. Whether your feelings are valid or not, they should have been secondary to what the right thing to do as a mod is. R

    If you start stiffling criticism, you will alienate those who have issues with the way things are done. The same thing that happened to many who came here from bb.com. Don't become what you despise.

    Finally, you have yet to address the fact that you altered my post. This may have been intended to be funny, but it has larger implications. I have pointed them out previously. I realize that you would like to just get past this, but I see this as a problem that should be addressed.

  13. I initated no such thing Dio.

    Dio, there is only one thing that caused BB.com to crumble, LACK OF CONSISTENCY. Deleting posts, locking threads, that's what MOD's do, that is NOT what caused BB.com's demise. I was totally objective yesterday, and I have no quams with my own actions. I delted 2 of Mikes posts that were more than worthy and locked the threads that he was slinging crap in. That's it. Other than that Dio, I am sorry that you were offended by my joke, but in reality it was NOT a substantive post that was relative to the THREAD. I would never alter such a post unless somewhere therein it was inappropriate.

    You can choose to do what you want bro, like I said I like you, but we are not going to spend our time here fixated on what some people think are wrong, we are going to focus on what the majority see as right and good and pursue excellence. I am not here to make everyone happy, I am here to CONSISTENT. That is what I have been, and will be.

    WW7

  14. Originally posted by windwords7
    I initated no such thing Dio.

    Really? Then explain this:

    Dio, I edited your post because I thought you would see the humor in it. Im begining to feel like you a third nut of the avant scrotum.
    Show me where I insulted you before that.



    Dio, there is only one thing that caused BB.com to crumble, LACK OF CONSISTENCY. Deleting posts, locking threads, that's what MOD's do, that is NOT what caused BB.com's demise. I was totally objective yesterday, and I have no quams with my own actions. I delted 2 of Mikes posts that were more than worthy and locked the threads that he was slinging crap in. That's it. Other than that Dio, I am sorry that you were offended by my joke, but in reality it was NOT a substantive post that was relative to the THREAD. I would never alter such a post unless somewhere therein it was inappropriate.

    It was a criticism of how the moderating was being handled and it was changed. If you don't see how this is relevant or substantive, then things are worse than I thought. Unfortunately,I can think of no other way to explain it to you. Again, it was the selective use of the mod abilities that caused problems over at bb.com.

    You can choose to do what you want bro, like I said I like you, but we are not going to spend our time here fixated on what some people think are wrong, we are going to focus on what the majority see as right and good and pursue excellence. I am not here to make everyone happy, I am here to CONSISTENT. That is what I have been, and will be.
    WW7


    Then be consistent and OBJECTIVE. There's no need to be fixated, just fix the problem and move on. Problems that are not addressed tend to grow...

  15. This is the last I have to say abou this....notice I said "Im begining to feel like", not&nbsp;that you were,&nbsp;simply stated that something was awry.

  16. The edited by and date and time of has been set so people will know when a post has been edited even if it was done by a mod. So if someone modifies it people will know... Hope this helps a litle bit.. Other than that lets just move on on this&nbsp;subject. Talk to ya...&nbsp;
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  17. Originally posted by curt2go
    The edited by and date and time of has been set so people will know when a post has been edited even if it was done by a mod. So if someone modifies it people will know... Hope this helps a litle bit.. Other than that lets just move on on this&nbsp;subject. Talk to ya...&nbsp;
    I always wondered why that was not on here!

  18. Originally posted by curt2go
    Other than that lets just move on on this subject.
    Done.

  19. Cool... Talk to ya.....
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  20. Originally posted by SirSavageX

    I probably over-reacted a little on Blacksmith, but I cannot stand personal insults hurled at me
    Sorry Bro,
    I apologize for calling you a dumbass.

    Now have a Happy New Year.

  21. Same to you.

    And my apologies for being condescending in my response.

  22. See, don't I know you guys or what?&nbsp;

    I am making garbage post to boost my post count
    Last edited by K (Phoenix); 12-31-2002 at 04:22 PM.

  23. Don't worry K we will adjust your karma to reflect... hehehe Talk to ya..
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  24. Originally posted by John Benz

    SirSavage, I like you, even though we disagree on a few things. My point on the RIP thread was Par's lack of ANY proof to back up his claims. He should not demand proof from BDC, while stating that his opinion should be considered proof enough, as he is PAR DEUS!!!
    He had an article comparing different 1-Test products, and how he arrived at his estimation, but for the life of me, I cannot find it now. Probably had to remove it due to recent actions by the FDA.

  25. Originally posted by SirSavageX
    He had an article comparing different 1-Test products, and how he arrived at his estimation, but for the life of me, I cannot find it now.
    Savage, Par's article is in the Pimpology section of M&M #7. Here is a direct link: ONE & ONE+ vs The Competition

    As you said above, Par explains how he arrived at the 30-40% estimate by going thru each ingredient in the carrier, and theorizing how it affects the absorption. Note: that the actual article starts about 1/4 of the way down the page that I linked to.
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