- 09-09-2008, 12:16 AM
Does anyone really know how much liver damage Pro-Hormones can cause? I have seen products like Tri-bolic which is a combination of superdrol, halodrol, and phera max... from what i've heard the 3 Pro-Hormones that are hardest on your body. Is the damage comparable to excessive drinking for many years or what????
- 09-09-2008, 12:22 AM
anything that is 17aa is gonna hurt, thats why the combos are the "worst" because most have 2 methylated products in them, so its double the damage..
it depends on what support supps you are running
and your own body type
the only way to know for sure is to run the compounds yourself and have bloodwork pre and post cycleCURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html
- 09-09-2008, 08:09 AM
Combo's aren't necessarily worse. It depends on the dose of each compound. Ex: 50mg Halo and 10mg SD is probably less toxic than 30mg SD. It depends on the maker and the total Mg's per dose. THey can be harmfull - e.g., the ones giving you a full dose of all components - that's just nuts.
09-09-2008, 08:55 AM
30mg is not 30mg.
Each compound also has its own metabolites that have their own toxicity as well. So when taking one you may have multiple toxic metabolite. When taking three you may triple that amount.
It is ill advised but the consumer is ultimately responsible for himself.
09-09-2008, 10:24 AM
Liver damage can be very real if abused. You also have to count on other factors while you're on your oral(s). Alcohol, pain killers, muscle relaxers etc. Best bet is to have before/during/after bloodwork if possible. If not then you should keep your cycles short and don't run them back to back.
09-09-2008, 10:38 AM
09-09-2008, 10:58 AM
Notice the use of 'may' meaning that when stacking methyls, you may possibly increase the toxicity or you may not. Depends on the compounds and not the dose. Also, integrity would assume he was lying about what he stated and knew it. Even if what he stated wasn't true, I don't think he's the type of person to mislead someone on purpose. However, he's correct.
09-09-2008, 11:19 AM
Either way: Topic aside, I'm sorry if I implied that you were lying 5150. That was not my intent.
09-09-2008, 12:13 PM
The steroid itself is not what is toxic it is the metabolites. When you introduce three steroids you introduce three toxic metabolites. It is my understanding that the quantity of metabolites is not so much the issue but the variety of metabolites that may pose greater stress to the liver. It is sufficient enough information for me to chose more wisely.
As far as lying goes; anyone that remotely knows me knows I would never lie to a complete stranger.
I lie only to those I know and love; friends, family, people who trust me
09-09-2008, 12:26 PM
09-09-2008, 12:31 PM
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