Can i use superdrol alone? need your opinions

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    Can i use superdrol alone? need your opinions


    do i need something to counter the lethargy/sides or can i make it through the 3 weeks? whats your guys experiance? i have nolva for pct so im ok there

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    I think Dhea can counter some lethargy sides. Superdrol is pretty harsh on the liver, so most users condone use by itself. Unless you try something that is by inj or topical.
    You should have something more in your pct.
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    Definetly need all cycle support supps.(liver,kidney,joint,BP)

    I recommend Cycle Support by Anabolic Innovations throughout cycle and PCT; I've used it with good success. It incorporates all necessary support supps.
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    Our new Cycle Assist here on NP contains everything an anabolic growing boy needs

    As for the lethargy the old 4AD was king I've heard phenomenally good things about Dermacrine by Primordial too. Otherwise DHEA should help a bit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    I think Dhea can counter some lethargy sides. Superdrol is pretty harsh on the liver, so most users condone use by itself. Unless you try something that is by inj or topical.
    You should have something more in your pct.
    Why would he need more than Nolva?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedup View Post
    Why would he need more than Nolva?


    Serms,although important, are basically used for avoiding gyno..... You still should add in other support supps(during cycle and PCT). Ex. Cycle Support,Post cycle support(or comparable supps), Retain, Advanced PCT.


    Make sure to research PCT throughly before doing PH,PS cycles. Remember that SERMS are also harsh on LIVERS as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post
    Serms,although important, are basically used for avoiding gyno..... You still should add in other support supps(during cycle and PCT). Ex. Cycle Support,Post cycle support(or comparable supps), Retain, Advanced PCT.


    Make sure to research PCT throughly before doing PH,PA cycles. Remember that SERMS are also harsh on LIVERS as well


    You got that wrong bro. They aren't just for avoiding gyno in the slightest. Check the thread (specifically posts by Z) SD/PP Layout, on this first page.

    EDIT: Phera/Supdrol Layout <-- some great info/discussion in there

    Nolva only is a fine PCT for any cycle. If its fine for a 12 week test cycle with a 4 week SD kickstart, I'm sure its fine for a 3-4 week SD cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnick7 View Post
    You got that wrong bro. They aren't just for avoiding gyno in the slightest. Check the thread (specifically posts by Z) SD/PP Layout, on this first page.

    EDIT: Phera/Supdrol Layout <-- some great info/discussion in there

    Nolva only is a fine PCT for any cycle. If its fine for a 12 week test cycle with a 4 week SD kickstart, I'm sure its fine for a 3-4 week SD cycle

    So you are saying,being a man of your reputation, that running PS/PH are fine with something like Nolva only.
    No other support supps in PCT! Granted.... Serms are considered the best for shutdown...I will agree with that. But you don't think that any further support supps are needed at all in Superdrol PCT?
    I disagree strongly!

    How many cycles have you done with Nolva only...honestly

    Make sure you recognize the word MOSTLY in my post.

    You can still be shutdown even if you use a serm
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post



    So you are saying,being a man of your reputation, that running PS/PH are fine with something like Nolva only.
    I disagree strongly!

    How many cycles have you done with Nolva only...honestly

    Make sure you recognize the word MOSTLY in my post.
    Yes PH/PS are fine with nolva only PCT. I personally add in an AI at the end tapered through paranoia of delayed gyno. I often add in other things too, personally, but that is my way, just in case my nolva is bunk, at least I have something, lol!

    I now know my nolva isnt bunk. I am on PCT right now from superdrol 20/20/30 using just nolva and 9 days or so in my balls are back (I planned on using PCS, but I am saving it). I will taper down an AI at the end though, but again thats extra precaution.

    Also you post doesnt say mostly, it says SERMs are basically for avoiding gyno. That was the main part I disagreed with

    PCT tends to be over complicated. SERMs are hepatotoxic, but nothing that worries me. I run NAC/ALA probably half the year anyway (and on it now).
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post



    So you are saying,being a man of your reputation, that running PS/PH are fine with something like Nolva only.
    No other support supps in PCT! Granted.... Serms are considered the best for shutdown...I will agree with that. But you don't think that any further support supps are needed at all in Superdrol PCT?
    I disagree strongly!

    How many cycles have you done with Nolva only...honestly

    Make sure you recognize the word MOSTLY in my post.
    I've very successfully used Nolva only. As far as ON cycle support of course I've used liver, cholesterol, & BP support supps which continued into PCT
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    Here's what I'd do.

    Run Dermacrine for 4 weeks, drop in SD at week 2 and finish out with 3 weeks of SD + Dermacrine.
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    Alright....well Ziqour and Tnick7.... good points

    Ones own personal experience is good advice...I agree

    That being said....It doesn't represent the masses,So to speak

    Lets go back to the threads of Neoborns Epistane FAQ or even RPN's Havoc write-up. They are not considered as harsh as Superdrol, yet they still recommended other PCT supplements,


    YOU ARE RIGHT TNICK7.....I MISSTATED THE SERM PART....
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman43 View Post
    Alright....well Ziqour and Tnick7.... good points

    Ones own personal experience is good advice...I agree

    That being said....It doesn't represent the masses,So to speak

    Lets go back to the threads of Neoborns Epistane FAQ or even RPN's Havoc write-up. They are not considered as harsh as Superdrol, yet they still recommended other PCT supplements,


    YOU ARE RIGHT TNICK7.....I MISSTATED THE SERM PART....

    I believe the point here is a SERM is the most critical base of a PCT. Just as you referenced the Havoc write-up - it states that a SERM is critical for Havoc PCT. As for the masses - whether it be Lee Priest, Haney, Arnold, or any top notch pro - they don't much come off of gear much but when they do, rest assured a SERM is their most critical weapon for PCT.

    The only other masses other than what I referenced IMO would be the misinformed, uneducated kids who think OTC PCT products will suffice for a PCT - which are made up mostly of those who have no clue where/how to get a genuine SERM
  

  
 

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