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    Pulsing Havoc... Did it work for you?


    I've done the research, but still see alot of debate regarding pulsing and it's effectiveness. I want to pulse Havoc, as honestly lack of sides and shutdown are more important to me than "somewhat" better gains if I ran it straight. But then again... I don't want to completely waste my time either.

    Background: 6'0 - 205lbs - Lifting 3 years - No previous cycles of any time.


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    I havent said anything yet but i use an offstandard protocol of three days on and 5 days off and have seen increasing gains without the sides and with much less use of what you'd normally use. Really an outstanding product.

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    Bumping this up, for a wider range of opinions. I think there are a lot more pulsers out there.

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    I pulsed Havoc for 6 weeks(3x wk)
    Started at 10mgs. and finished last dosage at 60mgs.
    4 wks. of PCT
    I saw good strength gains as well as general AI like properties:

    1) Leaned out
    2) Hardening of muscle

    No substanial size gains

    I will opt to run it straight next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I havent said anything yet but i use an offstandard protocol of three days on and 5 days off and have seen increasing gains without the sides and with much less use of what you'd normally use. Really an outstanding product.
    Very interesting protocol. did you run anything on off days. Tomorrow is my last day off Epi/tren pulse 8 weeker. Started out as a recomp. last 3 weeks been eating a lot. Decent results.

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    Just regular supps, no other type of hormone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    Just regular supps, no other type of hormone.
    I ran PCS and a little DHEA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I havent said anything yet but i use an offstandard protocol of three days on and 5 days off and have seen increasing gains without the sides and with much less use of what you'd normally use. Really an outstanding product.
    That's nice to hear! Can you give me some input as to your dosing protocol and also the workout split you used?

    I already have the bottle of Havoc... and I just want to make sure that a drop in libido does not become an issue, so I'm pretty certain I am going to pulse it.

    Did you take an AI during the off days?

    This is also my first cycle... so I'm hoping to see good results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    Very interesting protocol. did you run anything on off days. Tomorrow is my last day off Epi/tren pulse 8 weeker. Started out as a recomp. last 3 weeks been eating a lot. Decent results.
    What did you mean by decent? Any specifics? My first cycle, so I'm pretty pumped.

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    just about done with my havoc 4 week cyc....any ideas for otc pct? I plan on using cs/6oxo/lean xtreme. Any other solid products lookin good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppydogg View Post
    just about done with my havoc 4 week cyc....any ideas for otc pct? I plan on using cs/6oxo/lean xtreme. Any other solid products lookin good?

    Straight cycle or pulse?


    Definetly want to add Post Cycle Support

    What dosage did you run?

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    I gained about 5 lbs. (wasn't eating to add mass), good strength gains, and a lowered libido.

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    What time of the day did you take it? I got the IBE Epi and there 20mg pills. I didnt check and really wanted 10mg but ah well. So at lunch or a couple hours before i workout?

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    I usually took first dose late morning/early afternoon pre wo, second dose pwo. Taking earlier theoretically will help prevent suppression.

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    I got the IBE Epi and there 20mg pills. I didnt check and really wanted 10mg but ah well.
    Wrong, they're 20mg/serving. One serving: two pills. One pill: 10 mg.


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    Dang, owned. Well thats good, as i would rather take one before and one after as mentioned before. But bad as im gonna have to buy more now!

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    it was aiight, but i got a little gyno surprisingly from it...it was also prolactin related i believe, no lump, nip just squeezed out a tiny bit of juice, but i aint too worried, ever since i was a kid i had chest fat and plus im not that thin these days LoL. my pct was pretty **** tho, i used novedex xt for 4 weeks 40/30/20/10 and pulsed epi for 6 weeks 10/20/30/30/40/40...but i got sick in the middle of the last 40 dose and had to take a week off but it was all good. went from 170-185, leaned out a bit, strong as an ox, but like i said, pct was **** and i drank alot haha and now im back to 175....im not touching PH's in the near future, maybe when im in my 30's ill do real gear.

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    I used Epi at varying does, starting at 20 mg (10 before, 10 after a workout, every other day) then finally moving to 80 mg. 80 was too aggressive, so I stuck with 60 mg po eod. I saw my bench move from 235 to 300 lbs. I started at 180 lbs and ended at 202. My PCT was just AI's Post Cycle Therapy. I ate like a horse and worked out like a fool. I loved it...

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    As the one who has had the material (even before the first production release) the longest, and also being blessed/cursed with a rabidly curious mind and disregard for my own safety (not really)...I played with a bunch of different protocols.

    Honestly, compared to the minimal shut down I have experienced on full cycles (or as Jay alluded to high dosage on workout days and either lower or non dosage on off days) I have to admit that pulsing just didn't do it for me.
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