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Off my cycle now started PCT

ALJD0812

ALJD0812

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Ok I just finished a 6 week cycle of Havoc. I love this product and actually bumped up to 50 mg but the sides were becoming to much for me to handle. My hair was falling out a little to fast and my stomach was beginning to hurt and my appetite decreased....yet I gained 2 pounds the last 4 days. Go figure. My libido crashed again in the past week so I am hoping my PCT will fix that right up and speaking to others I am confident it will be.

anyway, I just started with Nolva and will continue for the next 4 weeks as follows 40/40/20/20

I got Diesel test Hardcore which I will be taking 6 caps a day for the same time period and also have Stoked, which I will take 4 caps a day (AM and PM).

I am dropping DHEA as that was advised to me a couple of weeks ago and I dropped Paravol since I am taking Stoked. Does anyone disagree with me on this? I will take Paravol once I am off PCT as I found that to be a good product on it's own.

My question is will I still make gains taking these products for PCT? The most depressing part is losing some gains. My diet is pretty solid, although I am not that strict with it. I will eat something if I feel like it but my workouts are very intense. I am curious to see what DTH and Stoked will do for me. Any feedback is greatly appreciated and I am open to criticism as well.

Thanks
 
ALJD0812 said:
Ok I just finished a 6 week cycle of Havoc. I love this product and actually bumped up to 50 mg but the sides were becoming to much for me to handle. My hair was falling out a little to fast and my stomach was beginning to hurt and my appetite decreased....yet I gained 2 pounds the last 4 days. Go figure. My libido crashed again in the past week so I am hoping my PCT will fix that right up and speaking to others I am confident it will be.

anyway, I just started with Nolva and will continue for the next 4 weeks as follows 40/40/20/20

I got Diesel test Hardcore which I will be taking 6 caps a day for the same time period and also have Stoked, which I will take 4 caps a day (AM and PM).

I am dropping DHEA as that was advised to me a couple of weeks ago and I dropped Paravol since I am taking Stoked. Does anyone disagree with me on this? I will take Paravol once I am off PCT as I found that to be a good product on it's own.

My question is will I still make gains taking these products for PCT? The most depressing part is losing some gains. My diet is pretty solid, although I am not that strict with it. I will eat something if I feel like it but my workouts are very intense. I am curious to see what DTH and Stoked will do for me. Any feedback is greatly appreciated and I am open to criticism as well.

Thanks
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Its RARE to kep 100% of your gains, deal with it. In the PCT time frame you need to focus on keeping your gains, not making new ones :D

If you havent done so already be sure to adjust your diet (maint. cals) to your new weight.

I think your PCT is fine although I dont like the idea of running Nolva over 20 mgs/day.
 
yea 40mgs of Nolva is overkill, especially on Havoc. 40mgs. maybe for the first 2 or 3 days, as a "loading session" but after that you might want to go to 20mgs ED.
 
lennoxchi said:
yea 40mgs of Nolva is overkill, especially on Havoc. 40mgs. maybe for the first 2 or 3 days, as a "loading session" but after that you might want to go to 20mgs ED.
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Ok thanks, I will follow your advice. I just want my libido to kick back in.
 
the libido "issue" is mostly in peoples heads, i've never had a problem, as long as i thought i could perform.......
 
lennoxchi said:
the libido "issue" is mostly in peoples heads, i've never had a problem, as long as i thought i could perform.......
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Sorry brother I will argue with you on that one. The first 3 weeks of havoc, I had no problem, after that the drive was gone or decreased a lot. The volume is way down too.
 
ALJD0812 said:
Sorry brother I will argue with you on that one. The first 3 weeks of havoc, I had no problem, after that the drive was gone or decreased a lot. The volume is way down too.
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you can argue, it's cool, i was just sharing the experiences that I've had with PS/PH compounds. i have heard of the libido thing before (kind of hard not to) i just have never experienced it in my life.......
 
lennoxchi said:
you can argue, it's cool, i was just sharing the experiences that I've had with PS/PH compounds. i have heard of the libido thing before (kind of hard not to) i just have never experienced it in my life.......
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LOL, yeah it sux man when it happens to you. My friend had no problems though, it hits people different I guess. I was up to 250 mg of DHEA to combat that but it didn't work last week. What is weird though when I did Epistane (I know the same thing) my libido never went down, havoc it did.
 
i was planning on running havoc for a 4 week cycle but am starting to reconsider and maybe running a 3 weeks cycle or possibly running epi.. i am exteremly concerned about the loss of libido... it seems my libido is down right now.. and a further decrease would not be appreciated by some of the girls i hang out with
 
bigzach1234 said:
i was planning on running havoc for a 4 week cycle but am starting to reconsider and maybe running a 3 weeks cycle or possibly running epi.. i am exteremly concerned about the loss of libido... it seems my libido is down right now.. and a further decrease would not be appreciated by some of the girls i hang out with
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Epi and Havoc are the same thing. I do not think 3 weeks will produce the gains your looking for but just long enough to shut you down.:thumbsup:
 
lennoxchi said:
yea 40mgs of Nolva is overkill, especially on Havoc. 40mgs. maybe for the first 2 or 3 days, as a "loading session" but after that you might want to go to 20mgs ED.
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i wouldnt run NOLVA for any thing that interacts with the 5a reductase,

Id go with Clomid aand Reversitol.

but if you go the nolva route, add Aromasin in at week 2 at 10mg per day for 3 weeks

NOLVA 20/20/20(taper last few days, althogh i dont think its nesecary)
AROMASIN 10/10/10
 
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