Phera/Supdrol Layout

UNCfan1 · 09-02-2008, 09:20 PM

Whats up guys, need some good honest feedback on this cycle.

CEL PPlex and CEL Mdrol.

My Phera is the 19.2mg. So I will be rounding up.

Week 1- PP-20mg
Week 2- PP-40mg
Week 3- PP-40mg/ SD-10mg
Week 4- SD- 20mg
Week 5- SD- 20mg

Supports-

Pre-Load Cycle Support
Liver Longer/Cycle Support
Taruine
ACES/NoXidant
Gut Health-

PCT-

Nolva- 40,20,20,10mg
Clomid-????
6-OXO- 600,600,300,300mg or Inhibit-E 3,2,2,1
Taurine
ACES/NoXidant
Gut Health
SAMe- 600,600,400,400mg
Cycle Support

SizeON
Purple Wraath
Intracell

Thoughts on Clomid doses? Also thoughts on Phera doses and length.

Stats-

6'4
249lbs
BF- 17-18%

Exp-

3AD
Epi-E
Halodrol-50/Orastan-E
Hemadrol/Propadrol

Edit- I forgot to mention the on and off cycle addition of ALCAR.

thaOrleanyte · 09-02-2008, 09:43 PM

Thats a rough cycle from what i understand.... but your a pretty big guy. Dont know if two ''wet bulkers'' should be ran that way, but im no expert. Sad thing is I got a buddy running the same cycle as you (pplex,mdrol) .............................( execpt none of the support supps......... and NO NOLVADEX) and I told him he is a fukkin idiot. Seems like you got all you ducks in a line.

Good luck! let us know how it goes!

ThaO

crazyfool405 · 09-02-2008, 09:55 PM

STARTING Pplex/mdrol Bridge and maybe somee.....

theres mine if you wanna take a look!!!

Menacer · 09-02-2008, 10:03 PM

I ran a PP/SD bridge very similar to your layout almost two years ago. I put on around 15lbs and kept probably 10lbs of muscle (I was only around 215lbs when I started the cycle). I had a solid pct with nolva but it still took me a while to recover completely. I would recommend just sticking with one cap of Phera through week three but your a big guy so you may need 40mg until that SD kicks in which doesn't take long.

UNCfan1 · 09-02-2008, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menacer

I ran a PP/SD bridge very similar to your layout almost two years ago. I put on around 15lbs and kept probably 10lbs of muscle (I was only around 215lbs when I started the cycle). I had a solid pct with nolva but it still took me a while to recover completely. I would recommend just sticking with one cap of Phera through week three but your a big guy so you may need 40mg until that SD kicks in which doesn't take long.

Thanks for the posts guys. Crazy I will take a look at your log.

Menacer, sounds like you had a good cycle. I am hoping the addition of clomid will help me recover faster since its the only one clincally proven to do so.

I will play around with the Phera and see how I respond, I wish I had 10mg caps instead of these 19.2 mg.

**Ziquor** · 09-02-2008, 11:09 PM

This is looking good. For PCT I'd add the 6-OXO in a few weeks into PCT and taper up/down. I'd avoid ATD on this cycle at all costs IMO.

UNCfan1 · 09-02-2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziquor

This is looking good. For PCT I'd add the 6-OXO in a few weeks into PCT and taper up/down. I'd avoid ATD on this cycle at all costs IMO.

That was another thing I was thinking over too. Thanks for the help Z!

**bassgod272** · 09-04-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNCfan1

Whats up guys, need some good honest feedback on this cycle.

CEL PPlex and CEL Mdrol.

My Phera is the 19.2mg. So I will be rounding up.

Week 1- PP-20mg
Week 2- PP-40mg
Week 3- PP-40mg/ SD-10mg
Week 4- SD- 20mg
Week 5- SD- 20mg

Supports-

Pre-Load Cycle Support
Liver Longer/Cycle Support
Taruine
ACES/NoXidant
Gut Health-

PCT-

Nolva- 40,20,20,10mg
Clomid-????
6-OXO- 600,600,300,300mg or Inhibit-E 3,2,2,1
Taurine
ACES/NoXidant
Gut Health
SAMe- 600,600,400,400mg
Cycle Support

SizeON
Purple Wraath
Intracell

Thoughts on Clomid doses? Also thoughts on Phera doses and length.

Stats-

6'4
249lbs
BF- 17-18%

Exp-

3AD
Epi-E
Halodrol-50/Orastan-E
Hemadrol/Propadrol

Edit- I forgot to mention the on and off cycle addition of ALCAR.

How are you going to get 40mg PP? When I ran this exact cycle, it came in 15mg caps

I did 15/30/30/30 with PP. During the 4th week I added in Super at 10mg and lowered the PP dose to 20mg(had 2 different brands). Then I continued the SD for 2 weeks afterward. 6 weeks was too long IMO. 5 is PERFECT. The entire 6th week I was pissy, had NO libido, was VERY irritable, etc. As for the clomid run it at 50mg every night before bed for the first 2 weeks only. This will help your HPTA and you won't need to worry about clomid's notorious sides at that dose. Add about 6g or so of fish ol daily and it looks good. Also, i'd stay away from inhibit-e(ATD). SOOOOO many of the delayed gyno threads I have read, involved ATD in PCT. Here's my log so you know what to expect. It's a littleeeee lengthy though just to warn you

Bassgod's Mass Xxxplosion Cycle!! I gained 15lbs and kept 11. The 4 lost were just glycogen, so don't worry if the scale goes down after the SD is ceased.

crazyfool405 · 09-04-2008, 11:13 PM

i personally feel like phera will keep gaining into week 5, so im on phera till week 5 and started a bridge of Mdrol,

so far soo good, Libido is ok. all my doses were high too.

but all doses were stoped by no later then 5 pm ,

**Ziquor** · 09-04-2008, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassgod272

How are you going to get 40mg PP? When I ran this exact cycle, it came in 15mg caps

I did 15/30/30/30 with PP. During the 4th week I added in Super at 10mg and lowered the PP dose to 20mg(had 2 different brands). Then I continued the SD for 2 weeks afterward. 6 weeks was too long IMO. 5 is PERFECT. The entire 6th week I was pissy, had NO libido, was VERY irritable, etc. As for the clomid run it at 50mg every night before bed for the first 2 weeks only. This will help your HPTA and you won't need to worry about clomid's notorious sides at that dose. Add about 6g or so of fish ol daily and it looks good. Also, i'd stay away from inhibit-e(ATD). SOOOOO many of the delayed gyno threads I have read, involved ATD in PCT. Here's my log so you know what to expect. It's a littleeeee lengthy though just to warn you

Bassgod's Mass Xxxplosion Cycle!! I gained 15lbs and kept 11. The 4 lost were just glycogen, so don't worry if the scale goes down after the SD is ceased.

Ever since the ban was 'proposed' in April-May, the price of raw materials went up. So ever since then all the newer batches of P-Plex have been 10mg/cap since

**bassgod272** · 09-04-2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziquor

Ever since the ban was 'proposed' in April-May, the price of raw materials went up. So ever since then all the newer batches of P-Plex have been 10mg/cap since

Oh, ok I wasn't aware of that. Thanks

**Trauma1** · 09-04-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziquor

This is looking good. For PCT I'd add the 6-OXO in a few weeks into PCT and taper up/down. I'd avoid ATD on this cycle at all costs IMO.

Agree 100%

**Trauma1** · 09-04-2008, 11:31 PM

I have some original phera and superdrol that is calling my name as well UNC.

I've already mapped out my cycle for when i do it, and it looks similar to what you have here. I agree with Z though about tapering up and then down the 6-oxo. I probably woulnd't even add it in until week 2 either.

Nice to see some quality RPN products in there are well my friend. Best of luck with this.