because test enanthate doesnt shut u down like my previous ph cycles, is there any reason for pct drugs? this is my first injectable cycle(2cc's a week), im looking to get some feedback

[DAdams91982]

Originally Posted by pdigs

because test enanthate doesnt shut u down like my previous ph cycles, is there any reason for pct drugs? this is my first injectable cycle(2cc's a week), im looking to get some feedback

Test, or any derivative will shut you down. I am guess 1ml is 250mgs... so that is 500mgs a week. Which is supra physiological levels, anything above your homeostasis level will shut down your natural production. This goes for ANY anabolic.

Adams

[SoCo4Fun]

Who told you exogenous testosterone use will not shut you down? Test will shut you down just like any other steroid. The difference is since you are supplementing with testosterone you don't notice sides like lack of libido (unless E gets out of control)

[tnick7]

You serious? How can you use steroids if you think test e wont shut you down. Please dont use steroids and do some research for your own sake. Off course you need a PCT and off course test shuts you down

ok that is basically what i wanted to know. when i think of being shutdown i think of having lack of libido/tiredness. i heard that enanthate does much the oppisite. so with what u guys are saying, after u stop use of the test... ur libido and energy crashes?

[SoCo4Fun]

without pct yes you will be shutdown.

shutdown just means that your body isn't producing it's own testosterone.

my last question or questions.... what is the benefit to stacking enanthate with dbol/ or deca? also, how long before enanthate typically takes effect?

thanks guys

[Usf97j4x4]

I'm not even going to take part in this thread... this guy is not ready.

[nosnmiveins]

Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4

I'm not even going to take part in this thread... this guy is not ready.

well said.

OP u have lots of research to do. the questions u are asking are the absolute most basic. use the search feature

[holyintellect]

Listen...there isnt a single steroid out there that will not cause suppression, irregardless of what some of the online profiles may say. Testosterone can cause severe suppression, and should be treated as such. Running 2ccs of test will certainly inhibit your own production, so using something post cycle would be wise...there are guys who do not of course, but its not wise.

holy

[Disturbed]

Originally Posted by pdigs

my last question or questions.... what is the benefit to stacking enanthate with dbol/ or deca? also, how long before enanthate typically takes effect?

thanks guys

You would use dbol as a kickstart.You are not ready for deca.

[TheeBC]

Use Superdrol during PCT. It will take care of you, it contains all of the necessities to getting you up and running.

[raginfcktard]

Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4

I'm not even going to take part in this thread... this guy is not ready.

i think he's perfect....step into my office...

Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4

I'm not even going to take part in this thread... this guy is not ready.

i have done ph cycles with pct before, im 185-190lbs with maybe 7% bf. ive been working out for 10yrs or so... i really dont know what makes me not ready. what im doing right now is called research... what am i suppose to do? research my researching? this forum is made for researching, asking questions and getting educated. dont tell me im not ready, if u dont want to comment then dont... u just sound arrogant and stupid. besides ur theory wouldnt be correct anyway...because anabolics react different to everyones body, trial and error would be part of the process. research in general can only get u so far. so take your attitude and just get the fuk outa here, im sick of the steroid PHD wannabees on this goddamn site. probably due to too much testosterone yourself, how fukin ironic.
im just trying to help myself out. its better than doing no research and relying totally on "the big guys opinion" at the local gym about what i should do (like most people)

[raginfcktard]

i honestly see no big deal in 500mg test e a week...i say go for it. depending on your goals you could even run a slightly lower dose to start...you just need to be prepaired for 'worst case' scenario. test e is probably the best and safest choice even among many PH's being whored on this site.

[slow-mun]

Originally Posted by pdigs

i have done ph cycles with pct before, im 185-190lbs with maybe 7% bf. ive been working out for 10yrs or so... i really dont know what makes me not ready