conservative oral steroid use for enhancing recovery while avoiding side effects

[Dwight Schrute]

Originally posted by neurotic


Following your arguments, if one were to make an oral only steroid and/or prohormone cycle it would be best to take it all at once so that HPTA supression would be minimized, wouldn't it? I've also thought about that many times. However, I've also read that in order to get the maximum benefits out of prohormones you have to spread it throughout the day with 3-4 evenly spread doses. Is this just a myth on your opinion? If yes, great, that means I could make prohormone cycles where I could "gulp" them all before afternoon, still get the same benefits as if I took them spread throughout the day but with less HPTA supression.

People have been taking all their orals in the morning for years. I've done it both ways and for the 4th time, there is no difference. Logically your would think if they were evenly spread out it would work better and I believed that also until I tried it. It further proves to me that you can't target a specific time for increased anabolism to occur wioth hormones. Aminos are different.

[Dwight Schrute]

Originally posted by buyb12
well are we taking it just post work out or......?
if so with a long enough half life this wouldn't be too bad but ...anyone who has used dbol knows after it has kicked in ( meaning the effects...after a week ) ...about an hour after taking it you get to ride the wave strength increases and energy increase.....

to maximize recovery, levels should be up in your system to take advantage of the anabolic state.....a pre workout shake with amino's followed by good workout with a shake ( within 15 min of stopping ...this is when I hit the slin ) a 70-100grams of carbs and a 70g protein shake post workout is the best way to minimise catabolism. this is great for replenishing glycogen stores and maximisig growth......

ok to get the effects desired one would want to take the oral pre work out.....thus getting the effect of increased strenght and anabolic effect for recovery.......( it's late and I just took a uscle relaxer hope this makes sence)

Ive tried it (for the 5th time) and there is no difference. Many people havre tried and there is no difference. THe only possilbe difference is strenght increases due to possible CNS stimualtion and in that case, use Var instead. As far as increased growth to strategic times of the day, it doesn't work.

[neurotic]

Originally posted by Bobo


People have been taking all their orals in the morning for years. I've done it both ways and for the 4th time, there is no difference. Logically your would think if they were evenly spread out it would work better and I believed that also until I tried it. It further proves to me that you can't target a specific time for increased anabolism to occur wioth hormones. Aminos are different.

Sounds quite well. Do you think that doing it that way I will really avoid HPTA supression?
I thought that using prohormones I might do something like this:

9:00 AM 300 mg of 1,4-andro
12:00 AM 300 mg of 4-diol
3:00 PM 300 mg of 1,4-andro
END

I spread them like that to avoid enzyme saturation because I think I might waste prohormones if I took them all at once because there might not be enough enzymes for conversion

What do you think?

[Dwight Schrute]

Originally posted by neurotic


Sounds quite well. Do you think that doing it that way I will really avoid HPTA supression?
I thought that using prohormones I might do something like this:

9:00 AM 300 mg of 1,4-andro
12:00 AM 300 mg of 4-diol
3:00 PM 300 mg of 1,4-andro
END

I spread them like that to avoid enzyme saturation because I think I might waste prohormones if I took them all at once because there might not be enough enzymes for conversion

What do you think?

Yes PH's can have enzyme saturation but its highly unlikely since the conversion takes place in a miniscule amount of time and then its ready again. But your plan sounds good for insurance sake.

On the suppression issue, no it doesn't avoid suppression at all. Its just easier to pop them in the morning and not worry aobut them the rest of the day.

D-bol! Breakfast of champions!