M1T stack question

[gqsuperman]

32yrs old...6'1, 205lbs ..been lifting on a regular basis for 15+ years. It's been awhile, but I'm looking for some advice on what to stack with a 4 wk cycle of M1T. I haven't done a cycle for about 5 years and had great results with a M1T/4-AD cycle last time around. However 4-AD is no longer available, so what can i stack with the M1T this go-round to help combat lethargy and other negative sides...without additionally stressing my liver. I had great results off the recommended 5mg/day, so that's what I using this go round. I can always using M1T as a standalone, but if something a little milder might help, then great. Will be running milk thistle throughout and will use Nolva for PCT. Diet is in check and I am not really looking to pack on too much weight. Ans?y suggestions?

 

[Jayhawkk]

p-plex

 

[tnick7]

Primordial Performance Dermacrine.

 

[Kaliman221]

I think I read somewhere about people using DHEA to help combat lethergy on M1T and Superdrol cycles. I'm not sure what dosage they were using though. :wave:

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

IMO it does not need to be stacked with anything it is very potent on it's own:thumbsup:

 

[Jayhawkk]

5mg with 30 mg p-plex is pretty effective too.

 

[LilPsychotic]

Since you've been out of the game for a while, you should look for some better options. There are much better designers than m1t.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

5mg with 30 mg p-plex is pretty effective too.

That could be very effective I would be afraid that I would be so lethargic that I would not be able to work out:lol:

 

[Jayhawkk]

You would have to definitely take something to combat those sides but the gains could be very good and 5mg of M1T shouldnt be too liver toxic.

 

[Jayhawkk]

Cycle support and possibly Sunami and Diesel Fuel added in?

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Cycle support and possibly Sunami and Diesel Fuel added in?

Have you ever run M1T before? If so was it as bad as I keep reading about?:thumbsup:

 

[Jayhawkk]

I've probably ran more M1T than most Yes and no. It is bad that gets very bad if misused. If you can stay responsible with it, you can get great gains and probably not die.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I've probably ran more M1T than most Yes and no. It is bad that gets very bad if misused. If you can stay responsible with it, you can get great gains and probably not die.

Does it really bring on the lethargy thats what I hear the real killer is that and insane pumps?

 

[Jayhawkk]

Back pumps kept me from walking more than 50 feet without haivng to stop and I slept my ass off. My cardiovascular system went negative.

 

[B5150]

I've probably ran more M1T than most

:nono:

Yes and no. It is bad that gets very bad if misused. If you can stay responsible with it, you can get great gains and probably not die.

People don't know what they get into. ***** about it when they are in it and then blame the M1T.

Still my favorite, but then again I use it properly and very effectively.

 

[Jayhawkk]

Mine too.

 

[B5150]

Does it really bring on the lethargy thats what I hear the real killer is that and insane pumps?

I suggest running a base of a test precursor or test itself.

Pulse it for three days at a higher does. Front load 12hrs pre day one, then half a day on day three. By then the half life will carry over and that is when the lethargy sets in. Then sleep and recover and grow...and repeat.

I've run M1T for four weeks straight and was miserable with all the usual symptoms. When pulsed I can run it for 3 days on 4 days off for 4 to 6 weeks and see better, saner, healthier results. Then take 4 to 6 weeks off.

It diminishes the negatives considerable. No elevated BP, no incapacitating lethargy, headaches, cramps etc. I pulse it and enjoy it much more so than SD.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I suggest running a base of a test precursor or test itself.

Pulse it for three days at a higher does. Front load 12hrs pre day one, then half a day on day three. By then the half life will carry over and that is when the lethargy sets in. Then sleep and recover and grow...and repeat.

I've run M1T for four weeks straight and was miserable with all the usual symptoms. When pulsed I can run it for 3 days on 4 days off for 4 to 6 weeks and see better, saner, healthier results. Then take 4 to 6 weeks off.

It diminishes the negatives considerable. No elevated BP, no incapacitating lethargy, headaches, cramps etc. I pulse it and enjoy it much more so than SD.

If I ever to decide to run it I will take this advise thanks much:thumbsup:

 

[Jayhawkk]

Although I won't run another cycle of M1T I would run it that way too.

 

[Jairster]

I suggest running a base of a test precursor or test itself.

Pulse it for three days at a higher does. Front load 12hrs pre day one, then half a day on day three. By then the half life will carry over and that is when the lethargy sets in. Then sleep and recover and grow...and repeat.

I've run M1T for four weeks straight and was miserable with all the usual symptoms. When pulsed I can run it for 3 days on 4 days off for 4 to 6 weeks and see better, saner, healthier results. Then take 4 to 6 weeks off.

It diminishes the negatives considerable. No elevated BP, no incapacitating lethargy, headaches, cramps etc. I pulse it and enjoy it much more so than SD.

That's a surprise to me. I've always heard you shouldn't pulse M1T, but then I haven't heard a lot of talk about it since it went off the market.

I actually have a bottle in my freezer waiting to be used. I'd love to hear more about possible cycles.

GQsuper, I'll look forward to seeing how you dose.

 

[B5150]

I suggest running a base of a test precursor or test itself.

That's a surprise to me. I've always heard you shouldn't pulse M1T, but then I haven't heard a lot of talk about it since it went off the market.

I would never pulse as a method for using any androgen by itself.

 

[Jairster]

I would never pulse as a method for using any androgen by itself.

I see; sorry I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying.