Pick my next cycle for me!

[pitching101]

Hey guys I am currently 5'10 213 lbs, about 15% bf. My prior experience is Havoc run for 5 weeks alone, and Havoc stacked with Bold 200 for 9 week (just running the Havoc for 5.5 of those weeks). Please pick my next cycle for my upcoming bulk, I want the most gains possible:

->Havoc for 6 weeks
20/30/40/40/40/40

->Havoc stacked with Propadrol for 6 weeks
Havoc- 20/30/40/40/40/40
Prop--- 60/60/60/60/60/60

->Havoc bridged with Pheraplex
1 20 Phera
2 30 Phera
3 20 Phera 20 Epi
4 30 Epi
5 30 Epi
6 40 Epi

 

[Condition1]

Have you considered running something other than Havoc, just to mix things up a bit?

 

[pitching101]

I have a bottle left over and I would really like to just finish it. Also, I love Havoc, good gains with very little sides. But yea after this cycle I think I am gonna try out SD, but what do you suggest out of those 3?

 

[partyman43]

I have a bottle left over and I would really like to just finish it. Also, I love Havoc, good gains with very little sides. But yea after this cycle I think I am gonna try out SD, but what do you suggest out of those 3?

If havoc works... stick with it: you can play with the dosage a little, maybe.
Any sides experienced on it?

 

[pitching101]

The only sides I ever got from Havoc are bad calf and back pumps, but I can use taurine to fix that and slight loss of libido. Are you choosing the first option then?

 

[lennoxchi]

pp and havoc. the dosage you have there looks good too. just out of curiosity, what effect has propadrol had on you in the past, if you've used it before?

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Have you considered running something other than Havoc, just to mix things up a bit?

Agreed running the same compound over and over will produce less results:thumbsup:

 

[partyman43]

Agreed running the same compound over and over will produce less results:thumbsup:

Hey pem... doesn't it depend on the how often you run it(in a given year,or how long you break between cycles or even how well you run pct for it.
Just wondering?:thumbsup:

I would say that if you like the product and it has worked well for you;depending upon criteria mentioned above, then run it (stacked with something else like phera).

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Hey pem... doesn't it depend on the how often you run it(in a given year,or how long you break between cycles or even how well you run pct for it.
Just wondering?:thumbsup:

I would say that if you like the product and it has worked well for you;depending upon criteria mentioned above, then run it (stacked with something else like phera).

By no way am I saying you can't do it but the majority of people who do report the gains are not as great and they have better luck going to another compound then going back to the Havoc. It may still work fine but also you could be very dispointed:thumbsup:

 

[Condition1]

Yeah Pem, that was my logic as well. Partyman, this will be his 3rd time running Havoc.

Pitching, I like the stack idea you have laid out, followed by the bridge. Considering your experience, I think the stack would give you good results. I would run a different compound though, just to mix things up.

 

[Condition1]

This is one of the best logs i've followed. Short and sweet, great results. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/90575-revolted-my-epi.html

He stacked epi w/ revolt, i'd like to do the same with havoc in the near future.

 

[pitching101]

I think I'm gonna go with the Havoc/Phera bridge, any suggestions for dosing or is what I have ideal? Id really like to extend the bridge to 7 weeks if someone could give me a dosing schedule for that.

 

[pistonpump]

since you are going with the havoc/phera cycle and youd like 7 weeks....


1 20 Phera
2 30 Phera
3 30 Phera 20 Epi
4 20 Phera 30 Epi
5 30 Epi
6 40 Epi
7 40 Epi

 

[lennoxchi]

since you are going with the havoc/phera cycle and youd like 7 weeks....


1 20 Phera
2 30 Phera
3 30 Phera 20 Epi
4 20 Phera 30 Epi
5 30 Epi
6 40 Epi
7 40 Epi

agreed, solid lay out for doseing........

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

since you are going with the havoc/phera cycle and youd like 7 weeks....


1 20 Phera
2 30 Phera
3 30 Phera 20 Epi
4 20 Phera 30 Epi
5 30 Epi
6 40 Epi
7 40 Epi

Looks like a very good bridge there

 

[Australian made]

since you are going with the havoc/phera cycle and youd like 7 weeks....


1 20 Phera
2 30 Phera
3 30 Phera 20 Epi
4 20 Phera 30 Epi
5 30 Epi
6 40 Epi
7 40 Epi

This looks the goods. Weeks 3 and 4 are going to be awesome!!

 

[pistonpump]

This looks the goods. Weeks 3 and 4 are going to be awesome!!

yeah, the phera will be full blown and then with the epi......strength gains galore!

 

[Condition1]

yeah, the phera will be full blown and then with the epi......strength gains galore!

Should be a solid ass bridge, though I still think you should mix things up.

Piston, that looks like BJ is slicing Sherk's freaken throat. Badass man.:saw:

 

[pitching101]

since you are going with the havoc/phera cycle and youd like 7 weeks....


1 20 Phera
2 30 Phera
3 30 Phera 20 Epi
4 20 Phera 30 Epi
5 30 Epi
6 40 Epi
7 40 Epi

This setup looks sick man, I think I am gonna go with this.

 

[Condition1]

This setup looks sick man, I think I am gonna go with this.

You should consider DHEA for the later weeks, to help with lethargy.

 

[pistonpump]

You should consider DHEA for the later weeks, to help with lethargy.

i have to keep that in mind when i cycle again and lethargy becomes a problem. i have yet to use it but hear alot of people say it works.

 

[lennoxchi]

i have to keep that in mind when i cycle again and lethargy becomes a problem. i have yet to use it but hear alot of people say it works.

it does wonders for a SD cycle.....when you don't even feel like moving