t-1 pro vs. one +

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  1. Originally posted by 1Fast400



    But if Par/Dante jumps in a thread, I'm looked at as one of them....choose your standard and stick with it ok?
    My standard is this smartass...... you promote Avants website in all your signature's around the internet, you're one of the Avant boys. Par doesnt want to release his precious formula, like we dont know it, like we want it. Point is this once again... we sell a more potent, more effective product for cheaper, we also teach people how to make that same product for themselves and that really burns your asses. And rightfully so, but to go around acting like junior high girls about it isnt the way to gain any credibility.


  2. you promote Avants website in all your signature's around the internet
    Because his board draws the best brains out there. It takes nothing more than a glance over there to see that.


    Par doesnt want to release his precious formula, like we dont know it, like we want it.

    What you think you have is wrong, as I've seen what you "think" it is. Second, if you don't want it why do members of this forum ask for it in various post?


    we sell a more potent, more effective product for cheaper, we also teach people how to make that same product for themselves and that really burns your asses.
    Nothing has been proven about it being more effective. It is not as if you have a large feedback thread. It doesn't burn my ass at all. Sure people have/will homebrew, they also have to buy their hormones. Don't forget that I supply those for quite a few people.

    to go around acting like junior high girls about it isnt the way to gain any credibility.
    The points I have raised are all ones that are valid. I dare you to show me one that hasn't been. If we are going to talk about what I do, then lets stick to what I say, not others.
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  3. Originally posted by YellowJacket

    we also teach people how to make that same product for themselves and that really burns your asses.
    And bonus,
    this might be what's left in the end anyway.

  4. Originally posted by 1Fast400


    Because his board draws the best brains out there. It takes nothing more than a glance over there to see that.
    Yes, I have and its "lets play whos got more wits" than it is an educational board. To say its the best board on the net is once again laughable. The way eveyone acts over there is just like the bb.com, the board they give so much hell, you have 2 guys whom are worshipped, and god forbod be questioned or contested. Thats also pathetic. They can not handle being contradicted, thats their weakness. They cant defend themselves with anything but calling people out to "out wit" you. LoL.....pathetic.



    What you think you have is wrong, as I've seen what you "think" it is. Second, if you don't want it why do members of this forum ask for it in various post?
    I dont ask for it and the guys who do want it for the sole purpose to shut his arrogant mouth. They cling to that "hidden" formula, because thats all they have left of the Avant Empire

    Its pathetic to watch you kiss their asses....a guy who used to be all about helping people now clings to others. I think your attitude will change in a few weeks however.

  5. Originally posted by YellowJacket
    When you openly post pictures of him, he's no longer YOUR'S

    None of you guys give ANY credit to genetics, training intensity of nutrition. Someone gains 40lbs in 4 weeks on ONE+ and as a good advertising ploy everyone screams how ONE+ is incredible! and fail to mention the guy was a genetic freak. I saw pictures of him, with my own eyes. He didnt look 40lbs heavier, because 4olbs in 4 or 8 weeks, the guy is going to have a considerable amount of body fat, which he obviously didnt.

    40lbs in 4 weeks on ONE + (oh wait, its Sp+ duh!) ???  HAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Good luck repeating that, if that is even true at all.

    Try using that as a marketing scheme is LOW !! Talk about intellectual dishonesty!! 

     

     
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  6. Oh, but theres pictures to prove it

  7. Originally posted by 1Fast400
    He doesn't understand transdermal delivery. If he did he would debated Par on the question that was put before him, but he DIDN'T debate it. I don't slam people doing homebrews. Why don't you go ask curt who has sent him people in canada to sell to. Why don't you ask curt who tried to work a deal with him for foreign sales. I slam chemo for other reasons. Not buying his 4AD from the patent holder is sleezy at best. If you found out Avant or myself was doing that it would be a hay day for you guys. Heaven forbid you hold the same standard to your "homebrew god".
    1. Chemo doesn't understand transdermal delivery but you do?

    2. Not buying his 4ad from the patent holder is sleezy. But it is okay for you to screw Molecular out of their loyalty on 1,4 andro?

    Logic please!

  8. Originally posted by 1Fast400  
    I think his comments (and I don't know for sure) are in reference to it only being a 10% DMSO mixture. I don't see how anyone would argue if you went higher than that (say 25%), that it would be improved quite a bit. However, I'm not sure many would be able to do 1-T and DMSO at those concentrations. If you've ever had the 1-T rash, trust me...you don't want it. I have a local homebrewer that had a NASTY rash from using to much dmso.
     
    PLEASE  Post something that is FACTUAL.  Show us data and proof.  No opinions please.

  9. 1. Chemo doesn't understand transdermal delivery but you do?

    I don't develop products which are said to be better yet not understand the science behind it. Go look at the thread yourself, BDC stopped talking as soon as Par asked him a question.

  10. Originally posted by 1Fast400
    He doesn't understand transdermal delivery. If he did he would debated Par on the question that was put before him, but he DIDN'T debate it. I don't slam people doing homebrews. Why don't you go ask curt who has sent him people in canada to sell to. Why don't you ask curt who tried to work a deal with him for foreign sales. I slam chemo for other reasons. Not buying his 4AD from the patent holder is sleezy at best. If you found out Avant or myself was doing that it would be a hay day for you guys. Heaven forbid you hold the same standard to your "homebrew god".
    I don't understand transdermal delivery?  That may work for those that aren't familiar with me but not over here Mike.  Go tell that line to other boards...

    About the 4-AD claims -> I have purchased my last order of 4-AD from PA and have discussed the prior China purchases with him directly.  He does not see a problem with it as long as future purchases come from him...so, WHY DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT STILL?  You bring it up like it is YOUR patent...drop it already.  The patent holder doesn't have a problem with it...I don't have a problem with it...the members don't have a problem with it...it's time for you to follow suit and shut the **** up already.

    Chemo

  11. Originally posted by 1Fast400
    I don't develop products which are said to be better yet not understand the science behind it. Go look at the thread yourself, BDC stopped talking as soon as Par asked him a question.
    I responded to his homework assignment in kind.  I stopped posting about it until Par releases his formula.  Since his line is getting pulled, or supposedly pulled, he should have no problem releasing his formula.  The formula I use is public domain and is posted freely everywhere so Par can compare his to mine easily.  What do we have to base our comparison on???  He points to the formula that was posted over on bb.com as a CLOSE recipe but this is not the same as his. 

    Chemo 
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