Methyl-1-test and cycle lengths

**jweave23** · 10-19-2003 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Jarconis

 

No comments from the peanut gallery, thanks

I'm kind of leveling off I think in that dept. now....not super soldeir but not limp noodle either. I have some cialis I'm going to use though to give things a little boost

**max silver** · 10-20-2003 04:06 PM

After tons of deliberation I've decided that I'll be running m1t for two weeks at 10mg/day. I'm cutting right now, and looking for a little added boost, and the m1t should be just the thing for that. The side effects at 20mg for many users sounds pretty severe, and for once I decided to take the safer path instead of jumping headlong into something. I'll be cycling for two weeks, and then taking two weeks off. Depending on results I'll be running another two week cycle after the off period, either at 10mg/day again or bumping up to 20 mg/day if results are unsatisfactory.

Is 5mg twice a day likely to garner much in the way of results? I can't recall anyone keeping a log of 10mg/day as of yet. And one last thing, with m1t is it best to take the tabs with food or on an empty stomach?

**sifu** · 10-20-2003 04:57 PM

The tabs are 10mg each so it would be kind of hard to take 5mg at a time don't you think?

**jweave23** · 10-20-2003 05:30 PM

Well good news, didn't need cialis last night and the soldier was ready for battle

**max silver** · 10-20-2003 05:43 PM

Sifu, I'm hoping the tabs are going to be easy enough to cut in half. Hopefully it won't lead to them dissintegrating on the spot, but they look to be pressed well enough for easy halving as far as I can see.

**sifu** · 10-20-2003 06:47 PM

Well they are pressed well. I wouldn't attempt it though. I am on 20mg a day, and I love it. Jweave I am getting the same as you for libido. No problems with my soldier.

**motiv8er** · 10-20-2003 06:59 PM

Did you do anything for post cycle? How long before the boys bounced back? I took three Stamina RX this weekend and I think I rebuilt her spine. But I want to make sure I am lining myself up to do it without chems. But I'll do anything to avoid having another sleepless night of conversation!!

Peace

**sifu** · 10-20-2003 07:21 PM

Well I am on right now. But you want to do the post without chems. WHY? I am going to do clomid, for post cycle, no reason not to. If I wasn't though, I would do 6-OXO, tons of flax, also trib, and Maca. Maybe some ZMA, but by the time I bought all of that I could buy three cycles worth of Clomid

**motiv8er** · 10-20-2003 08:28 PM

Bone her w/o the cialis spiked Stamina RX. I'm clomiding to Christmas and back!!!

Peace

**Bryan** · 10-22-2003 04:54 PM

Looks like I'll be doing 2on/2off/2on @ 10md ed

**NPursuit** · 10-22-2003 05:40 PM

Originally posted by max silver
Is 5mg twice a day likely to garner much in the way of results? I can't recall anyone keeping a log of 10mg/day as of yet. And one last thing, with m1t is it best to take the tabs with food or on an empty stomach?

I don't think splitting the dose up is going to have any positive effects.  I don't know when the best time to take it is though.  I would assume if you can handle it to take it on an empty stomach.

Anyone?

BTW You guys talk about limp dick being the worst side ever.  I don't know about that.  I would take that over bitch tits any day of the week.

**bioman** · 10-22-2003 07:00 PM

I'm starting to wonder if even shorter cycles of M1T might be appropriate. For Bulking I'm thinking that maybe I'll set a weight goal of around 10 pounds, eat like a maniac, reach it ASAP in 10 days or less hopefully then go off to avoid shutdown. Since the M1T has a faily lengthy half life it might still be active in your system for another day or so post cycle.

A lot of people's gains seem to hover right around 10 pounds in 10-12 days then plateau. 10 pounds is great, no need to get greedy and go longer or up the dosages.

**jminis** · 10-22-2003 07:14 PM

Maybe I missed it but why are you assuming the half life is long. No one's really knows.

**bioman** · 10-23-2003 03:30 PM

True no one does know exactly but the whole point of methylization was to increase 1-T resistance to liver breakdown. Maybe you get an extra day post cycle, maybe not.

But in any case it's not the emphasis of I was shooting for. I'm simply saying that maybe we should look at M1T cycles as a quick 5-10 pounds as quickly as possible then off. Maybe there's no need, in many cases to extend the cycle to 14 or more days.

It just a different way of looking at cycling..rather than saying "I'm on for three weeks, off for three" I'm thinking of it as "I'm on for 5 pounds then off so I can insure that I keep those pounds".

This would of course take extreme discipline as we all are reluctant to stop a cycle when we're seeing gains.

Just a thought, flame away if you like.

**Bryan** · 10-28-2003 09:31 AM

Ok well Ill be starting my cycle as soon as my M1T arrives, here's my game plan.

My stats are:

176lbs
10% bf

Length 10-14 days on then two weeks off and possibly back on for another 10-14 days.

I'll be eating big calories, 4000-4500+ clean

10mg ed
I'll be using NAC/Milk Thistle for liver protection.

I'm also thinking about making using the rest of my T-Heat as everybody seems to be leaning out while on this compound.

My work shirt is getting damn tight on me, hopefully after this cycle my boss will say 'jesus its time for a new shirt'

**Cogar** · 10-28-2003 11:09 AM

Originally posted by bioman
True no one does know exactly but the whole point of methylization was to increase 1-T resistance to liver breakdown. Maybe you get an extra day post cycle, maybe not.

But in any case it's not the emphasis of I was shooting for. I'm simply saying that maybe we should look at M1T cycles as a quick 5-10 pounds as quickly as possible then off. Maybe there's no need, in many cases to extend the cycle to 14 or more days.

It just a different way of looking at cycling..rather than saying "I'm on for three weeks, off for three" I'm thinking of it as "I'm on for 5 pounds then off so I can insure that I keep those pounds".

This would of course take extreme discipline as we all are reluctant to stop a cycle when we're seeing gains.

Just a thought, flame away if you like.

True, although it would require a lot of discipline for someone who is gaining a pound a day to say, "OK, that is all the farther I am going this time." My guess is that we would all like that 11th pound as long as we are not experiencing sides.

As a side comment, it seems like just as many cycles of M1T are being ended due to sides (back pain, etc.) as are being ended because gains started to plateau.

Methyl-1-test and cycle lengths

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