What's the best Bulking/Mass PH CYCLE?
- 07-28-2008, 02:35 AM
- 07-28-2008, 03:03 AM
well if your going the PH route...you might not really need a serm, but pct is a good idea. 3-ad is good for a bulk cycle.
07-28-2008, 03:16 AM
3-AD , I'll have to look in too that...
I'm in Service so my options are a little held up at this time
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07-28-2008, 09:13 PM
I had surgery...
In my pic I posted I was 147lbs and on a strict 4,000 to even 5,000 calorie diet. My metabolism is ridicoulus. I was taking 30 grams of protien every four hours. I plateaud at 147 naturally. I had surgery a year ago and lost 15 lbs. So I know when I work my way up I want a good cycle planned after i get back to where i was
07-28-2008, 09:20 PM
I'll bet any quantity of money that 147 is not your genetic limit, but if that's what you think, then no wonder you can't get past it
being an ecto isn't an excuse to roid up when you're small, it's an excuse to work even harder and eat even more, that's all. I seen plenty of VERY successful ectos, and juicing at 132 lbs isn't the reason they're successful.
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07-28-2008, 09:41 PM
Bud, I am an ecto. I am 5'10 and weigh in at about 140 ATM. I am waiting till I am at least 155-160 before I get too tempted to use a PH(trust me I have been staring at epi/havoc for awhile) but it aint worth it at my weight.
Only reason I struggle is money issues...bills, we may lose our house, yadda yadda. Cant really buy all the chicken/rice/ oatmeal I want.
If you want to bulk with a supp so bad I would recommend the AN stack thats popular, it will probably get you just as good results right now as a steroid would(btw all PH's you see are actually steroids, accept it same sides)
If money aint an issue take that and you would rack on some pounds without risking your body for no reason.
Seriously you could do probably better with that stack because you will have muscle memory to help, and a good intake of calories and proper dieting with greenies and fruits.
And there are MANY other non PH routes to take other than that stack man. Not just AN, but there are many great companies with great products you can find info on in the forums.
I am planning on a winter bulk with Mass FX/Hyperdrol X2 if I reach 150 by then.
I really recommend not using a PH atm. I mean what did you have surgery on? It could even agitate the issue.
Good luck bro, I hope you make a good decision.
07-28-2008, 10:46 PM
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07-28-2008, 11:41 PM
Natty PB and whole grain wheat bread w/ flax seed is awesome
I like my chicken, I take it for the protien, during bulks I keep it, Just add in more....but a nice big chicken breast with green beans and a couple slices of wheat bread followed by a protein shake......add in a sweet potato.....its on! Red meat is great for bulk. I am just a huger personal fan of chicken and fish. During the winter though I think I will shoot for red meat, I consumed alot of pork actually, I just didnt find it helpful as much.
07-28-2008, 11:53 PM
07-29-2008, 12:04 AM
Reason I love my chicken. 60 grams right then and there, followed by a protein shake. good 90 grams of protein. Considering I was shooting for 220 at least, it was good to have a PWO meal carry that much in ...wait the slices of bread had 8 g each....
Protein will limit your growth if you arent consuming enough of it. So no amount of cals are going to make you grow if you arent eating more protien than a small school serves up in mystery meat.
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