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    For a team picked to win it all, they don't look good at all right now. Hype can be a really bad thing sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    For a team picked to win it all, they don't look good at all right now. Hype can be a really bad thing sometimes.

    :bruce3:
    Yes. They have a bye week to get their bearings, then the second toughest second half schedule in the league.

    If they come out of that stretch 5-2 or better the rest of the league better watch out come playoff time.

    If they come out of that stretch worse than 5-2, they're not making the playoffs.
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    Cowgirls better watch out November 16!!!!

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    Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith = America's Team
    Tony Romo, Terrel Owens = Disgrace
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    Quote Originally Posted by AM07 View Post
    Cowgirls better watch out November 16!!!!

    btw, enjoyed the hospitality on Monday night.

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    Cowboys!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesota View Post
    Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith = America's Team
    Tony Romo, Terrel Owens = Disgrace
    i lol'd

    i dont post here frequently but needed something to pass the time while i wait for my ban to expire on another site

    i must say reading this last page was hilarious and it actually makes me wonder if half of you eve watch football

    loosing integrity?seriously?why wouldnt they want a player of pacmans caliber in the trouble secondary yea it was a risk yea he ****ed up but you cant fault the owner for trying to fix a well known issue by getting a highly talented player

    ad lets not forget that romo currently has the highest passer rating and is top 5 for passing TD's despite being out for 4 weeks

    the cowboys will be a force to be reckoned with in these last weeks and i cant wait till they play the giants with there starters instead of the backups (last go around i believe 6-7 starters were out)

    cowboys have a very talented QB one of the better WR sets in the leagueone of the best TE's in the game and when healthy possibly the best RB trio in the league (baber, joens, choice)

    ware>all
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    Quote Originally Posted by dommer View Post
    i lol'd

    i dont post here frequently but needed something to pass the time while i wait for my ban to expire on another site

    i must say reading this last page was hilarious and it actually makes me wonder if half of you eve watch football

    loosing integrity?seriously?why wouldnt they want a player of pacmans caliber in the trouble secondary yea it was a risk yea he ****ed up but you cant fault the owner for trying to fix a well known issue by getting a highly talented player

    ad lets not forget that romo currently has the highest passer rating and is top 5 for passing TD's despite being out for 4 weeks

    the cowboys will be a force to be reckoned with in these last weeks and i cant wait till they play the giants with there starters instead of the backups (last go around i believe 6-7 starters were out)

    cowboys have a very talented QB one of the better WR sets in the leagueone of the best TE's in the game and when healthy possibly the best RB trio in the league (baber, joens, choice)

    ware>all
    Besides the illegible aspect of that post, I'd argue that Barber, Jones, and Choice are NOT one of the best RB trios, duos, or even single backs in the league. Jones was injured, so we haven't gotten a look at him for a full season. We haven't seen Choice play as a starter much at all, and Barber has had a tough year now that he's carrying all the load. He's too physical to stand up without someone else taking a portion of the load.

    I'm a Steeler's fan, but the Giants have hands down the best running back group in the league, no questions asked.

    On a side note, I hope all you Cowboy fans are prepared for this weekend. It's going to be a great game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    Besides the illegible aspect of that post, I'd argue that Barber, Jones, and Choice are NOT one of the best RB trios, duos, or even single backs in the league. Jones was injured, so we haven't gotten a look at him for a full season. We haven't seen Choice play as a starter much at all, and Barber has had a tough year now that he's carrying all the load. He's too physical to stand up without someone else taking a portion of the load.

    I'm a Steeler's fan, but the Giants have hands down the best running back group in the league, no questions asked.

    On a side note, I hope all you Cowboy fans are prepared for this weekend. It's going to be a great game.
    i never said they were the best but they definitely are one of the bestall 3 rb's show alot of talent

    giants backs are great but still not sold on manning
    are you willing to make a bet for this game ill take the boys you take the steelers

    terms of the bet

    you display the avy of my choice for 1 month if i win and vice versa avy can not break site rules obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by dommer View Post
    i never said they were the best but they definitely are one of the bestall 3 rb's show alot of talent

    giants backs are great but still not sold on manning
    are you willing to make a bet for this game ill take the boys you take the steelers

    terms of the bet

    you display the avy of my choice for 1 month if i win and vice versa avy can not break site rules obviously
    Eh, the whole betting deal is not my thing. I'm just looking forward to the game, as I think it could go either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    I'm a Steeler's fan, but the Giants have hands down the best running back group in the league, no questions asked.
    If you look at the numbers you can't really argue that fact. However, I think most backs would do well if they had the Giants line in front of them. I don't think Jacobs, Ward and Bradshaw are unique talents. I just think they're solid backs with an excellent run blocking O-line in front of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    Eh, the whole betting deal is not my thing. I'm just looking forward to the game, as I think it could go either way.
    I think this is a very interesting game insomuch as the Cowboys are on the outside of the playoffs at this point so, this game means more to them in some ways. On the other hand, to the Steelers, this is a game to make sure they stay ahead of the Ravens and Jets so, it should make for a very intense game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    Eh, the whole betting deal is not my thing. I'm just looking forward to the game, as I think it could go either way.
    well thats pretty lame

    its actually pretty fun you never know what youll get when you loose the bet

    i got stock with this one for a month for betting on the cards in the cardinals giants game
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    Quote Originally Posted by dommer View Post
    well thats pretty lame

    its actually pretty fun you never know what youll get when you loose the bet

    i got stock with this one for a month for betting on the cards in the cardinals giants game
    I hate Eli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    I hate Eli.
    no **** im a boys fan threw and threw thats why i got stuck rocking a i <3 eli avatar for the next month
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    Quote Originally Posted by dommer View Post
    no **** im a boys fan threw and threw thats why i got stuck rocking a i <3 eli avatar for the next month
    Ugh. I feel your pain.
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    win at all costs!

    GO BOYS!!
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    The Cowboys are officially posers. You lose a game at home to a rookie coach and quarterback then follow that up with a stinker in Philly, not good. Tony Romo needs to go back to the rules that Bill Parcells gave him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Ugh. I feel your pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icanrace View Post
    win at all costs!

    GO BOYS!!
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    I love to see the Cowboys get humiliated.
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    13 pro bowlers and no post season, proof yet again that money doesn't buy a winning team. i guess TO should start making golf plans. they are the most overrated bunch of criminals in sports.
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    Fcuk You All!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Fcuk You All!

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    Been that way for over a decade now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Fcuk You All!

    Next Year Baby!
    we've been hearing that since '98. still no playoff wins in 10 years, and still a choke artist at qb. hey maybe the texas state prison has some new recruits.
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    They still have the most Superbowl appearances and are tied for the most Superbowl wins. They're just letting the other teams get a chance to catch up.

    2010 Superbowl Champs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    They still have the most Superbowl appearances and are tied for the most Superbowl wins. They're just letting the other teams get a chance to catch up.

    2010 Superbowl Champs!
    Yes you are a fan but realistically they are further from that championship than you might think. Before that can happen, they have to get their organization all on the same page. Jerry Jones is like George Steinbrenner and will do everything in his power to get the best front office and player talent available however, that talent has to work together and that hasn't happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    Yes you are a fan but realistically they are further from that championship than you might think. Before that can happen, they have to get their organization all on the same page. Jerry Jones is like George Steinbrenner and will do everything in his power to get the best front office and player talent available however, that talent has to work together and that hasn't happened.

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    I agree. They need to get in sync. They also need to shore up their offensive play calling and execution. However, keep in mind, the Cowboys were decimated by injuries this year.

    They lost:
    1 pro bowl QB for 3 games
    1 starting left guard
    1 back up left guard
    1 3rd WR/kick returner for the majority of the season
    1 4th WR
    1 5th WR
    1 starting RB was injured toward the end of the season
    1 rookie phenom RB/KR
    1 pro bowl cb
    1 nickel cb
    1 pro bowl safety
    1 back up safety/special teams ace
    1 third string safety
    1 pro bowl punter
    1 back up middle linebacker/special teams ace

    I know every team has their share of injuries, but the Cowboys took quite a few and it didn't help their chemistry. Not to mention they added lots of new talent which also impacts their team chemistry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    I agree. They need to get in sync. They also need to shore up their offensive play calling and execution. However, keep in mind, the Cowboys were decimated by injuries this year.

    They lost:
    1 pro bowl QB for 3 games
    1 starting left guard
    1 back up left guard
    1 3rd WR/kick returner for the majority of the season
    1 4th WR
    1 5th WR
    1 starting RB was injured toward the end of the season
    1 rookie phenom RB/KR
    1 pro bowl cb
    1 nickel cb
    1 pro bowl safety
    1 back up safety/special teams ace
    1 third string safety
    1 pro bowl punter
    1 back up middle linebacker/special teams ace

    I know every team has their share of injuries, but the Cowboys took quite a few and it didn't help their chemistry. Not to mention they added lots of new talent which also impacts their team chemistry.
    This is what I hate most about Cowboys fans: they always have an excuse when they lose. They underachieved the whole year, even when they were healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This is what I hate most about Cowboys fans: they always have an excuse when they lose. They underachieved the whole year, even when they were healthy.
    I'm not saying they didn't underachieve, they did. My point was that there were a lot of injuries. By no means am I justifying a 9-7 finish and not making the playoffs. However, it is ignorant to say that a team's health does not play a major role in their success in the NFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    I'm not saying they didn't underachieve, they did. My point was that there were a lot of injuries. By no means am I justifying a 9-7 finish and not making the playoffs. However, it is ignorant to say that a team's health does not play a major role in their success in the NFL.
    I submit for your approval the New England Patriots who lost their league MVP quarterback as well as other key players and still managed to win 11 games. Unfortunetly, that kinda hurts your argument a bit. Now they didn't make the playoffs either but there was no drama and no excuses. Even though I don't like them, I have to give props for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    I submit for your approval the New England Patriots who lost their league MVP quarterback as well as other key players and still managed to win 11 games. Unfortunetly, that kinda hurts your argument a bit. Now they didn't make the playoffs either but there was no drama and no excuses. Even though I don't like them, I have to give props for that.
    NE- 16-0 to 11-5, 5 wins less
    DAL-13-3 to 9-7, 4 wins less

    You're right tho, Cowboys have issues. They need to learn to STFU and play football. Garrett need to step up to the plate as well. Their players need to learn to never say die.

    Also, I'd trade Brad Johnson for Matt Cassel any day....Johnson has got to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    NE- 16-0 to 11-5, 5 wins less
    DAL-13-3 to 9-7, 4 wins less

    You're right tho, Cowboys have issues. They need to learn to STFU and play football. Garrett need to step up to the plate as well. Their players need to learn to never say die.

    Also, I'd trade Brad Johnson for Matt Cassel any day....Johnson has got to go.
    You got part of my point,the expectations once Brady went down was maybe for a 8 or 9 win season, they exceeded those expectations and In any other year those 11 wins would have definitely got them in.

    When Romo went down it seemed like subconsciously the Cowboys gave up. It's a mental toughness issue. Also Romo is young but not invincible, they didn't prepare properly for the possibility of his getting injured and were unable to shift gears when it happened. That being said, with a new stadium on the way, I'm sure Jerry Jones will be moving heaven and earth (and some people)to make next year better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    When Romo went down it seemed like subconsciously the Cowboys gave up.
    I don't think it was when Romo went down they quit, I think it was when they realized how washed up Brad Johnson had become. Also, while the offense died when Romo went down, the defense really started to step it up.

    That being said, with a new stadium on the way, I'm sure Jerry Jones will be moving heaven and earth (and some people)to make next year better.
    I hope they:

    - Trade Crayton for whatever they can get for him.
    - Draft a safety with loads of potential in the second round.
    - Focus on bringing together the offense as a unit and a whole team concept on both sides of the ball.

    I would be all for Jones calling Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher to feel out their feelings about coaching the team. They could use someone who could instill discipline. Even someone like Mike Singletary could do wonders for the team. That being said, if they couldn't get Johnson or Cowher, I'd stay with Phillips.
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    and Pacs gone...
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    the cowboys r the worst franchise in history next to the yankees, and they are very similar in how they do business, as a giants fan all i'm hoping for is the cowboys to trade witten or ware to us for cheddar bob a.k.a plaxico burress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    the cowboys r the worst franchise in history next to the yankees, and they are very similar in how they do business, as a giants fan all i'm hoping for is the cowboys to trade witten or ware to us for cheddar bob a.k.a plaxico burress
    Can you elaborate on this statement? Why are they (and the Yankees) the worst franchises in history?

    If Jerry Jones ever made a trade like that, I think every Dallas cowboy fan would hunt him down and impeach his ass somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    the cowboys r the worst franchise in history next to the yankees, and they are very similar in how they do business, as a giants fan all i'm hoping for is the cowboys to trade witten or ware to us for cheddar bob a.k.a plaxico burress
    Riiiiiight. 5 Superbowl wins and 9 appearances and they are the second worst franchise in history? Oh, and the team that's worst than them only has 26 World Series wins?

    You are dumb.

    As for Ware, the Giants have no combination of players they could trade that would equal a Ware. They could offer, Eli, Jacobs, Tuck, and Umenyori, and the cowboys would say no. Plaxico Burress sucks. The Cowboys wouldn't want him.
  

  
 

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