ice hockey

Rodja · 06-04-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus ATW

Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier and Yzerman played in an era where it was legal to grab, hold and obstruct. Players today have it easy as far as offense goes in the NEW RULES NHL. The Great One is and always will be the GREATEST 1.92 points per game.

The majority of all of their points came before the '94 lockout, which is when the obstruction came into play. Hell, Lemieux only played slightly more than 3 seasons after that time. Even into the mid-90's, players were still having seasons of over 130 points, but the most that has been scored in a season is 127 by Jagr in the '98-'99 season and there have been 3 seasons in the past decade where the Ross Trophy went to someone with fewer than 100 points.

Bum Mahoney · 06-04-2008, 10:36 AM

Gretzky....wow.

Mario finished at 1.88. Prior to his second comeback, while he was already in the hall of fame, he was at 2.01 for his career.
Can't argue with either of them. I just wonder what he would have done without the cancer and back/hip issues.

I agree though, today's players have it easier. I miss the physical aspects, personally.
Eddie Shore, baby.

Bum Mahoney · 06-04-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodja

The majority of all of their points came before the '94 lockout, which is when the obstruction came into play. Hell, Lemieux only played slightly more than 3 seasons after that time. Even into the mid-90's, players were still having seasons of over 130 points, but the most that has been scored in a season is 127 by Jagr in the '98-'99 season and there have been 3 seasons in the past decade where the Ross Trophy went to someone with fewer than 100 points.

**AlexParty** · 06-04-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bum Mahoney

Yawn.

The discipline is amazing!

Bum Mahoney · 06-04-2008, 12:12 PM

LOL. Thank God I took my meds.

**Ziquor** · 06-04-2008, 12:55 PM

Gretzky had 0.60 goals per game & Lemieux had 0.75 goals per game including his ridiculous 'comeback years'. Lemieux was a better scorer though Gretzky had more assists per game, both were great.

**AlexParty** · 06-04-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziquor

Gretzky had 0.60 goals per game & Lemieux had 0.75 goals per game including his ridiculous 'comeback years'. Lemieux was a better scorer though Gretzky had more assists per game, both were great.

I always liked Lemieux better than Gretzky. I know Gretzky's the great one, he does have superb passing and play making abilities, in fact the best but if I were to pass the puck to someone who had to score to win the game it would be Lemieux. Pittsburgh was lucky to have Lemieux and Jagar during the early 90's... what a line.

Bum Mahoney · 06-04-2008, 05:36 PM

I always liked Ron Francis.

How'd you like to be Paul Coffey?

**AlexParty** · 06-04-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bum Mahoney

I always liked Ron Francis.

How'd you like to be Paul Coffey?

Ron Francis was good too. Paul Coffey was a solid defense men. Did he played for pittsburgh? I know it was Detroit in his end career and Oliers from the start.

Distilled Water · 06-04-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bum Mahoney

I always liked Ron Francis.

How'd you like to be Paul Coffey?

Yea lets call him up and see what he thinks

Wow how many greats did he get to play with....the number is staggering

Distilled Water · 06-04-2008, 05:44 PM

Heres Coffey's list of teams

1980–87 Edmonton Oilers.....Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Fuhr
1987–92 Pittsburgh Penguins...Lemuix, Jagar
1991–93 Los Angeles Kings....Gretzky, Kurri
1992–96 Detroit Red Wings....Yzerman, Lindstrom, Fedorov
1996–97 Hartford Whalers
1996–97 Philadelphia Flyers...Lindros, LeClair, Hextall
1998(10games)Chicago Blackhawks
1998–00 Carolina Hurricanes
2000–01 Boston Bruins

qwerty666 · 06-04-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Distilled Water

Heres Coffey's list of teams

1980–87 Edmonton Oilers.....Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Fuhr
1987–92 Pittsburgh Penguins...Lemuix, Jagar
1991–93 Los Angeles Kings....Gretzky, Kurri
1992–96 Detroit Red Wings....Yzerman, Lindstrom, Fedorov
1996–97 Hartford Whalers
1996–97 Philadelphia Flyers...Lindros, LeClair, Hextall
1998(10games)Chicago Blackhawks
1998–00 Carolina Hurricanes
2000–01 Boston Bruins

Thats a good resume.

BTW, can anyone find an authentic Whalers jersey? The green one? Ive been searching all over and everything are replicas

**Ziquor** · 06-04-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty666

Thats a good resume.

BTW, can anyone find an authentic Whalers jersey? The green one? Ive been searching all over and everything are replicas

They just said on the local news the other night that Pens Jersey 'schemes' of replica fake jersey's being sold as authentics was at an all time high.

**AlexParty** · 06-04-2008, 06:57 PM

Ok make your calls, who's going to win tonight?

Rodja · 06-04-2008, 07:02 PM

My heart wants the Pens to win, but conventional wisdom says the Cup goes to Detroit.