- 12-13-2007, 11:38 AM
- 12-13-2007, 11:44 AM
We are fortunate to sell our supplements to various other coutries in the world so I have the opportunity to speak with owners of supplement shops and distributors around the world.
The common theme seems to be they are surprised by the innocence of Americans who believe that most professional athletes are NOT on steroids. The consensus seems to be the average person I speak with understands that most if not all professionals are on steroids/GH etc and they see nothing wrong with it.
I guess I am naive as I always thought that 99% or more of the professionals are NOT on steroids. It hurts just a less each time I see news report of yet another athlete being caught or admitting to anabolic steroids usage, but it still hurts.
Maybe it is still that high school kid in me who had dreams of the Olympics and being told no one makes it with out at least a little 'help' and not wanting to believe it.
For now I will still let my innocence look at life with rose colored glasses thinking that a guy/girl who has the heart, determination and drive to make the Olympics or become a pro athlete can still do it even with out the backing of tens of thousands of dollars and with out AAs, because the reality it just a little to hard to accept right now.
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- 12-13-2007, 12:33 PM
12-13-2007, 01:36 PM
12-13-2007, 02:17 PM
12-13-2007, 02:58 PM
Confirmed: Bonds, Petitte, Clemens, Fernando Vina, Matt Williams, John Rocker, Giambi, Kent Mercker, Jerry Harriston, Juan Gonzales, Paul LoDuca, Miguel Tejada...just to name a few
here's the report
12-13-2007, 03:02 PM
12-13-2007, 05:51 PM
12-13-2007, 05:53 PM
those guys are not on it, just checking espn now
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12-14-2007, 12:09 AM
The only thing is steroids arent really going to make you throw harder. So i dont think clemens could of benifited much from steroids. Possibly stamina but besides that i dont see anything. There league doesnt even allow pitchers to hit.
FWI: I am a college pitcher...
12-14-2007, 01:54 AM
Being a pitcher, you should know of "the shot". It's temporary, but it's an oil based (I guess you can call it a steroid, it's a banned MLB substance) that is injected into the shoulder. The injection lubricates the joint but tightens the tendon. It can add from 2 mph to 5mph. But like I said, it's temporary and is very detrimental to you pitching future.
FWI: I'm a college catcher
12-14-2007, 02:12 AM
12-14-2007, 03:33 AM
i dislocated my shoulder and severed the labrum and tore a small chunk of bone off with it during a stupid fight. it was my left shoulder but i swing lefty and my swing hasn't been the same. so we're kinda in the same boat huh?
12-14-2007, 04:54 AM
12-14-2007, 08:58 AM
If any of you read the actual report most of this information is second hand, even third hand at best. Mitchell actually has people named in this report that he heard from someone else who heard that they were purchasing/using. I'm actually quite upset at this report. Sure we wanted to know whose using, but this is a finger pointing like none other. Every name on this report is tarnished for the rest of their lives, even if they DID NOT use any performance enhancing drug. Every lawyer whose read this report has stated that none of this evidence would hold up in court to reach any form of conviction. It was a witch hunt, it still is a witch hunt, and just like the ACTUAL witch hunts back in history a lot of innocent people are going to get burned at the stake.
**** MLB, **** the Commissioner, and **** Mitchell. This should have been dealt with internally, and then when they could PROVE that a player received/purchased/used performance enhancing drugs, go public. This is a disgrace to baseball and as a sport I used to play and follow religiously as a child, I am now disabused with the league in general.
12-14-2007, 09:30 AM
2 things I find hard to believe: that Sammy Sosa's name is not on the list and that ANY professional athlete has not used
juice at least once!
12-14-2007, 12:24 PM
When competing in the NPC in the 80s, it was common knowledge that many ballplayers were using. Some of our suppliers were their's also. Maybe I'm desensitized by proximity, but I have been more surprised by some of my farts.
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