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**jmh80** · 08-31-2007, 09:55 PM

Rogue,
Quick question - but with regard to Wisky and their running schemes, how would you work Micheal Bennett and Anthony Davis into that discussion?

Both of those RB's were outside/speed guys - not really inside the tackle like PJ Hill seems to be. (And Dayne, of course.)

**Iron Warrior** · 09-01-2007, 01:57 AM

I'll take a shot at the Q but RD should definitely chime in. The turf benefits the speed guys. College football hash-marks are so wide that it also gives speed guys an advantage. They can outrun people to the wide side of the field, look for daylight and take off. There's probably more but that's all I can think of right now

**jmh80** · 09-03-2007, 10:22 PM

Bump for RD.

**Iron Warrior** · 09-03-2007, 10:43 PM

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Bump for RD.

He's an Auburn fan after what happened to Michigan

MgoBlue · 09-04-2007, 08:33 AM

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He's an Auburn fan after what happened to Michigan

Dude, that was a shameful game for all of college football!!! About the only thing those seniors can do now to try to get some self respect is beat Ohio State...

Rogue Drone · 09-04-2007, 05:54 PM

I try not to be too harsh on Michigan, cause my wingman is a lifetime fan, but that loss is not on all of football, that's on them and the B10.

Michigan just deeply hurt, again, the credibility of the B10.

That was the latest greatest example of how anyone can be beat by anyone if the "superior" team prepares poorly and lacks good in game adjustments.

Rogue Drone · 09-04-2007, 05:59 PM

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Rogue,
Quick question - but with regard to Wisky and their running schemes, how would you work Micheal Bennett and Anthony Davis into that discussion?

Both of those RB's were outside/speed guys - not really inside the tackle like PJ Hill seems to be. (And Dayne, of course.)

You are right. I should have, will now, say my critique was on last year and not necessarily accurate for years back. I don't think I paid much attention to the Badgers until 2005.

**jmh80** · 09-04-2007, 08:01 PM

That's fair RD. Just wanted to see what time frame you are talking.

**Iron Warrior** · 09-04-2007, 10:18 PM

Michigan's talent is overrated IMO but one other concerning thing is the lack of killer instinct in that team. They were heart less with the exception of Michael Heart. Henne looks like a big stiff who has trouble with quick decision making. Maybe that is attributed to inadequate coaching but Henne's not a freshman either.

Rogue Drone · 09-04-2007, 10:48 PM

I think that's why Michigan does'nt run the spread, Henne can't make the reads fast enough, he's a football dumb and dull as his boss, million dollar arm, ten cent head and heart.

MgoBlue · 09-05-2007, 02:01 PM

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They were heart less with the exception of Michael Heart. Henne looks like a big stiff who has trouble with quick decision making. Maybe that is attributed to inadequate coaching but Henne's not a freshman either.

that pretty much sums up Michigans season last year too.. They don't quite have the heart that other teams seem to have.. Henne has proved to be all but worthless. He's playing like a Sophomore.

Rogue Drone · 09-05-2007, 06:16 PM

In hindsight, I was too harsh on Henne. I apologize Chad.

Henne fits UM's scheme, a strong armed pocket passer that will carve up the D given time, but his slow targeting and immobility makes him very vunerable to serious pressure. He also seems to lack a winner's intensity and leadership, it's very possible that the Carr system has taken away his fire.

Be a believer, MgoBlue, Michigan can come back from this loss. I fully expect their O will, it's the D, Carr and his DC refuse to properly adjust and train? their men to play well versus wide sets and mobile QBs. It's very doable, but Carr and Co are frozen in time.

Michigan is one good new head coach and two recruiting classes away from being consistently in the elite, maybe 2010 and on.

MgoBlue · 09-05-2007, 09:06 PM

Oh, I'm still a beliver.. Haven't gone out & gotten the Mich State garb yet.. LOL. Maybe that loss will be that swift kick in the ass that'll wake them up so they realize that this is it for those Seniors that stayed to win the big one. Now, that big one, is Ohio State. Hell, they could run the table now & still get a decent bowl bid..

**jmh80** · 09-05-2007, 10:46 PM

You know - I've honestly been pondering the Big 10/11 and what could happen the rest of the way.

It's entirely possible (if lightning strikes Lloyd in the f*cking azz - Ron English too) that Michigan can create SERIOUS havoc in the Big 10/11.
They have the 2 really big games in November - Wisky and OSU. Plenty of time to get things back on track on D.
O seems to be ok - not top notch - but good enough to score points.

I've heard rumblings behind the scenes that Carr really didn't have a gameplan ready for AppSt - as he viewed it as a non-conf. cup cake game.

All it would take is Michigan beating Wisky or OSU to throw the Big 10/11 into a tizzy.
Hell - win both and we might be looking at a forced removal of the Big 10/11 from the BCS.

**Iron Warrior** · 09-06-2007, 12:27 AM

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I've heard rumblings behind the scenes that Carr really didn't have a gameplan ready for AppSt - as he viewed it as a non-conf. cup cake game.

If that's true then I don't know how Carr can look at his players w/out being ashamed. App. St ain't no ****ing USC or LSU but you gotta have a game plan, especially the first game of the year. You only have the entire ****ing off season to prepare LOL.

I also hear sports radio while driving and I can't believe that a good 50-60% of Michigan callers were actually satisfied with Carr because he got them a Nat'l Title in the late 90's and how they've been to a bowl game for the last gazillion years. It's on the JT The Brick show FYI, an excellent sports radio program if you guys ever want to listen.

MgoBlue · 09-06-2007, 08:03 PM

well, as the "I heard's" go on...

today, I tuned into the local AM sports station & heard the last bit of a conversation about Carr getting canned & LSU's coach heading up there.. He's stated that Michigan is his dream job (played/graduated from there).. It's funny, Saban comes down here from Mich State, brings LSU to the promised land, & now, it's possible that Miles could bring LSU back again & then maybe head up to Ann Arbor.... Not sure LSU would let Mich offer enough $$$ though... It's just funny listening to all these LSU fans already sweating their asses off about loosing Miles...

**jmh80** · 09-06-2007, 09:57 PM

M - I also heard Miles may not be on Schembechler's good side.