Usatoday Cfa Top 10 - Usc#1 ???
08-23-2007 02:54 PM
all I can say is
WV & TX over Michigan??? I remember towards the end of last season, before the BCS games, they were putting SC, LSU & MI up in the top 3... Now they put us down to 5??????!!!!
'guess we'll just have to prove ourselves early this year..
Hey AP pollsters -
08-23-2007 06:20 PM
Michigan at #5 is a gift. It suprises you, that given Michigan and Ohio State's performance in the Bowls, yes, The Buckeye performance reflects on Michigan, that they would drop?
Besides that, the defensive losses of Branch, Woodley and Harris for Run Control and Pass pressure and the OSU and USC exposed secondary that lost Leon Hall makes this a very suspect top five team, add the predictable offensive playcalling of Carr and Debord, more so.
Michigan is getting cred for a supposedly superior left side offensive line for Hart and who else? to run behind. Superior maybe in B10 play, but that's as much a reflection of the inferior to the SEC Defensive lines, the B10 has been very weak of late in producing great collegiate DTs and DEs. The B10 offensive lines tend to show poorly against top out of conference teams, putting Henne in Shotgun should help with this.
08-23-2007 06:25 PM
08-23-2007 08:05 PM
Agree whole heartedly with Rogue.
The piss poor Rose Bowl and still having Lloyd Carr as the head coach don't give me a good feeling about Michigan winning the Big 10 - when comparing to Wisconsin.
(They won their bowl game and return all but like 4 starters on O and D.)
I think Wisky is the team to beat in the Big 10 - and my pick to win the Big 10.
08-23-2007 09:23 PM
Wisky's problem, we shall see if they correct this, is that they play a decent low game, a lousy middle one, and a just ok high game.
The low is the run, they have large bruising linemen and backs to push the A gaps, but that runs right into the strength of the B10, collapsing lines, they don't spread and sweep the outer B and C gaps because they lack the lateral speed in the players they recruit to their scheme.
The middle is lack of possession receivers. Wisconsin has been terrible in implementing slot receivers and TE's to drop on the LBs and Corners playing Cover 2. I can't understand why the Badgers are so poor at this. They are unable to play Dink and Dunk, they run the low or the high, they have good deep receivers but have lacked the QB with an arm and a touch to be enough of a deep pass threat.
What happens with Wisky is that they keep pounding the low to their fatigue and can't find the high often enough, teams like Michigan cheat in and stall them out with ever more pressure from the LBs as the games progress.
08-23-2007 09:46 PM
Rogue, what's your real name, Lee Corso????
08-30-2007 12:09 AM
Saturday's a big day and I have good feeling about Cal. There hasn't been this much excitement about college football in a long a$$ time. We have a home game against a solid SEC squad. We can't lose to Tennessee for the 2nd straight year and call ourselves a top flight football program. I have faith in Tedford, Longshore, Forsett, and Jackson. The Bears will handle Tennessee 34-24. There's also word that Erik Ainge injured his hand so I hope it has a negative effect on him this Saturday
08-30-2007 12:20 PM
yeah, i see Cal getting sweet revenge Sat night.
08-30-2007 09:47 PM
IW - UT will have a pretty big let down this year IMO.
Ainge is nicked up already. No returning WR's with any catches of note. No clue who the RB is (Coker seems to be in Fulmer's doghouse). Best DL is gone (Justin Harrell at DT) and some other good players on D gone. Hefney is back in the secondary.
I don't see UT finishing in the top 20, honestly. Cal beats them and probably the Gators. I see one other SEC loss - am thinking South Carolina.
08-30-2007 10:12 PM
You're right, the lack of experience at the skill position should hurt Tennessee. A lot of their big gains against Cal in last year's game were on missed tackles so if we can just tackle well then we'll in a great spot . . . I can't wait and I probably won't sleep much tonight
Originally Posted by jmh80
08-31-2007 08:55 PM
Quick question - but with regard to Wisky and their running schemes, how would you work Micheal Bennett and Anthony Davis into that discussion?
Both of those RB's were outside/speed guys - not really inside the tackle like PJ Hill seems to be. (And Dayne, of course.)
09-01-2007 12:57 AM
I'll take a shot at the Q but RD should definitely chime in. The turf benefits the speed guys. College football hash-marks are so wide that it also gives speed guys an advantage. They can outrun people to the wide side of the field, look for daylight and take off. There's probably more but that's all I can think of right now
09-03-2007 09:22 PM
09-03-2007 09:43 PM
He's an Auburn fan after what happened to Michigan
Originally Posted by jmh80
09-04-2007 07:33 AM
Dude, that was a shameful game for all of college football!!! About the only thing those seniors can do now to try to get some self respect is beat Ohio State...
Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
09-04-2007 04:54 PM
I try not to be too harsh on Michigan, cause my wingman is a lifetime fan, but that loss is not on all of football, that's on them and the B10.
Michigan just deeply hurt, again, the credibility of the B10.
That was the latest greatest example of how anyone can be beat by anyone if the "superior" team prepares poorly and lacks good in game adjustments.
09-04-2007 04:59 PM
You are right. I should have, will now, say my critique was on last year and not necessarily accurate for years back. I don't think I paid much attention to the Badgers until 2005.
Originally Posted by jmh80
09-04-2007 07:01 PM
That's fair RD. Just wanted to see what time frame you are talking.
09-04-2007 09:18 PM
Michigan's talent is overrated IMO but one other concerning thing is the lack of killer instinct in that team. They were heart less with the exception of Michael Heart. Henne looks like a big stiff who has trouble with quick decision making. Maybe that is attributed to inadequate coaching but Henne's not a freshman either.
09-04-2007 09:48 PM
I think that's why Michigan does'nt run the spread, Henne can't make the reads fast enough, he's a football dumb and dull as his boss, million dollar arm, ten cent head and heart.