[CNorris]

Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

I would agree with the point about the lighter gloves and the need to modify one's stance and tactics to deal with other threats, disagree on the excitement of boxing. There's still dynamic excitement in boxing at the lower weights, the talent's pooled down there, the heavier weights aren't what thy used to be, one can hope it's cyclical and the heavier weights will return to fun form.

Baseball, now that's boring, Boxing is and always will be great, but not always, and neither is MMA, IMO.

I would rather sit through a scoreless pitchers dual than see that Oscar/Maywether fight again any day. I grew up in the Tyson/Holyfield era of boxing and early days of UFC. There was no question which one I loved the first time I saw it. MMA was hardly the sport it is today, it was quite pathetic compared to today's MMA. I still enjoyed it far more than any Tyson fight I ever watched. And boxing has not improved one bit. If you ask me, boxing is a sport for nursing home tenants. MMA is the present and future.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by CNorris

I would rather sit through a scoreless pitchers dual than see that Oscar/Maywether fight again any day. I grew up in the Tyson/Holyfield era of boxing and early days of UFC. There was no question which one I loved the first time I saw it. MMA was hardly the sport it is today, it was quite pathetic compared to today's MMA. I still enjoyed it far more than any Tyson fight I ever watched. And boxing has not improved one bit. If you ask me, boxing is a sport for nursing home tenants. MMA is the present and future.

If you think watching Tyson box is boring, then its gonna be tough to reason with you. It seems that on most issues you go way too far in one direction. How can you hate boxing so much when it is a HUGE part of MMA?

[CNorris]

Originally Posted by Alexander

If you think watching Tyson box is boring, then its gonna be tough to reason with you. It seems that on most issues you go way too far in one direction. How can you hate boxing so much when it is a HUGE part of MMA?

Because the KO rate is far higher in MMA for stand up fights. Honestly, Id love to see Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva slug it out in a pure MMA boxing match more than anything else. Someone is going to get KO'd with a 99% chance. You cant say that there is a 99% chance of any 2 boxers getting knocked out, unless you have a chump vs a champ. If you put 2 top boxers, most likely it will go to decision. I enjoy watching punching, but boxing gloves are too big, the fights are too long and drawn out and the sport is too one dimensional for my personal taste.

I have all the respect in the world for past champs like Ali and Larry Holmes. I love boxing movies. Cinderella Man is one of my favorite movies. I also loved Rocky. I just dont enjoy watching an hour long fight. And before you accuse me of having a short attention span and not enjoying the strategy of sports, I'm a huge baseball fan. I have the attention span to watch a baseball game 2-3 nights a week.

When it comes down to it, my hostility towards boxing comes from neglect the media gives to MMA. The day ESPN, CBS etc give MMA the credit it deserves I will not hate on boxing. MMA is not given fair coverage in the media. I dont get why ESPN is so scared of MMA. There is no doubt it is the present and future of combat sports.

[PumpingIron]

You got issues...theres obviously no reasoning with you. You have your opinions, no one agree with them, but hey, I have a buttload of opinions that no one shares with me either. True, boxing can be boring at times, but so can every sport.

I think this is more of an agree to disagree kind of situation.



And to whomever it was that said baseball was boring too a fe posts ago...I was completely with you until you decided to bash that greated sport ever played!!!

haha, i'm unsubscribed...take care.

[Rogue Drone]

Re: Baseball

That be me. Hate it, bores me comatose. We'll agree to disagree amiably, unlike another we know of, the greatest sport is the one with 22 guys scheming and slamming on every play - Football. I readily admit to a professional bias here.

[not_big_enuf]

Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

Re: Baseball

That be me. Hate it, bores me comatose. We'll agree to disagree amiably, unlike another we know of, the greatest sport is the one with 22 guys scheming and slamming on every play - Football. I readily admit to a professional bias here.

Football? tehre's like 4 minutes of action in football in the whole game. 3 seconds of action, 45 seconds of ball scratching, old guys talking and replays. 3 more seconds of action, then another 45 seconds of bs... then 3 more seconds, then 4 minutes of commercials.

it all depends on how you look at it.

[Rogue Drone]

Four minutes?!

There's ~135-165 offensive plays per football game, we were fast , not that fast.

As you say, a matter of perspective.I'm also big and sweaty and irritable, I melt into madness in the summer sun if I'm stuck in the stands and I'm not even going to address the tedious agony known as NASCAR. No sacred cows at the House of Drone.

[PumpingIron]

Different strokes for different folks...

I like all sports...being good enough at anything that you can make a million bucks impresses me...

[dannyboy9]

Originally Posted by PumpingIron

Different strokes for different folks...

I like all sports...being good enough at anything that you can make a million bucks impresses me...

BUMP

This is like arguing over Democrat or Republican. Who cares? Do you and keep your opinions to yourself.

Every sport has it's necessary skill and art. Deal with it and take your opinions to the judge.

[Rogue Drone]

What are the objectives of a forum, dannyboy?

The exchange of information AND opinions, it's called discussion.

PumpingIron posted on this thread specifically about this fight, and as this discussion was trailing off, he rendered an opinion on sports in general,as did I and Not Big Enuf. That's how it's done.

What did you do? You rebuked his opinion with your opinion on his, "pot calling the kettle black", think about this specifically and in general how Internet Forums operate.

[PumpingIron]

Don't worry, I like you all.

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by not_big_enuf

Football? tehre's like 4 minutes of action in football in the whole game. 3 seconds of action, 45 seconds of ball scratching, old guys talking and replays. 3 more seconds of action, then another 45 seconds of bs... then 3 more seconds, then 4 minutes of commercials.

it all depends on how you look at it.

So true!!!! has to be one of the most boring,slow unskillfull (bar 3 or 4 players) sports going around!..........and thats coming from a guy whos country plays cricket and lawn bowls.

But back on topic.....theres talk of uk boxer Ricky Hatton taking on either Oscar or Pretty boy (provided he doesn't retire) as long as Hatton beats Castillo in their upcoming fight. They would have to lose a few pounds to make weight but it would be a great fight to see.

[PumpingIron]

Ricky Hatton has only left England for his last two fights...granted he won both, but I don't see him being much of a match for either opponent.

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by PumpingIron

Ricky Hatton has only left England for his last two fights...granted he won both, but I don't see him being much of a match for either opponent.

and what is that supposed to mean? seriously you americans need to realise the USA is not the be all end all. He is world champion in his weight class. He beat Kostya Zu who was unbeatable for a long time and will no doubt beat Castillo in his upcoming fight. There are plenty of chumps who fight in Vegas.

[PumpingIron]

Originally Posted by Australian made

and what is that supposed to mean? seriously you americans need to realise the USA is not the be all end all. He is world champion in his weight class. He beat Kostya Zu who was unbeatable for a long time and will no doubt beat Castillo in his upcoming fight. There are plenty of chumps who fight in Vegas.

Major fights take palce in the US, thats where all the money is and that is where the talent lies...

I am sorry to say but it is the same in just about every major sport...except for rugby, cricket and soccer(football)...

[Australian made]

oh i agree that the cash definitely lies in the US but boxing doesn't have many guys that can draw a huge crowd and big money like Mayweather and Oscar, but Hatton still gets a few mill per fight and Kostya Zu is stinking rich as well. The big money fights are no where to be seen. Besides last wkend.

Its a shame the USA isn't good at any sports that the rest of the world plays..........besides maybe basketball.