[BingeAndPurge]

For sweeping the service academies. What a wonderful accomplishment, your ranking is well-deserved. I would like to see more of this, so could you please add Citadel, Norwich, VMI, and Coast Guard to your schedule.

Even the 1940's thinks keeping this tradition is pointless.

[CEDeoudes59]

wake up the echos

SC will **** on them next week, I'll be there.

[Kris4153]

Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59

wake up the echos

SC will **** on them next week, I'll be there.

LOL ND is going to **** on the faces of USC alumni and piss on the teams mouth gaurds!! Just wait little boy!

[gators52]

Originally Posted by Kris4153

LOL ND is going to **** on the faces of USC alumni and piss on the teams mouth gaurds!! Just wait little boy!

I think ND is going to get spanked like a naughtly little school girl like they did against michigan and that was in their home turf, this time they are on the road...they are going down.

[CEDeoudes59]

Originally Posted by Kris4153

LOL ND is going to **** on the faces of USC alumni and piss on the teams mouth gaurds!! Just wait little boy!

yeah, it would be crazy to expect USC to get to the national title game.
never done that before

[Iron Warrior]

USC wins 34-24. They won't stop Jarrett or Smith.

[buffb2]

USC won on a last second penalty R. Bush (Heisman trophy winner) pushed M. Leinart (Heisman runner up) in the back to score a touchdown. USC had Jarrett and Smith last year along with their two heisman canidates. They also lost L. White. On the other side of the ball N.D. has the same team offensively besides WR M. Stovall. Def. that is the same backfield and d line is the same. I dont know guys but losing the guys sc did and winning by a slim margin last year i cant find a reasonable reason why sc will blow nd out.

[Iron Warrior]

Originally Posted by buffb2

I dont know guys but losing the guys sc did and winning by a slim margin last year i cant find a reasonable reason why sc will blow nd out.

That's why they play the games

[CEDeoudes59]

Originally Posted by buffb2

USC won on a last second penalty R. Bush (Heisman trophy winner) pushed M. Leinart (Heisman runner up) in the back to score a touchdown. USC had Jarrett and Smith last year along with their two heisman canidates. They also lost L. White. On the other side of the ball N.D. has the same team offensively besides WR M. Stovall. Def. that is the same backfield and d line is the same. I dont know guys but losing the guys sc did and winning by a slim margin last year i cant find a reasonable reason why sc will blow nd out.

michigan blew them out and in South Bend no less, later we come to find that Michigan was a pretty good team. this is in LA and the trojans are Legit. Brady Quinn's biggest win ever was at Georgia Tech.

Trojans 34
ND 17

im in LA, the trojans are undefeated when i show up

[jarhead]

I think they're both weak, riding the wave of a weak ass schedule.

[CEDeoudes59]

Originally Posted by jarhead

I think they're both weak, riding the wave of a weak ass schedule.

USC has the 4th hardest schedule in the entire nation.

[jarhead]

Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59

USC has the 4th hardest schedule in the entire nation.

According to a computer, sure. But who do they play? I know it's just opinion, and a playoff is in order but I don't see their schedule being ranked that high.

[CEDeoudes59]

Well, let's just compare...
Ohio State isn't considered to have a soft schedule.

vs. North Illinois (2 Stars)
at. Texas (4.5 Stars, Longhorns are more like 4 Stars now though, could be considered top 5 at the time though)
vs. Cincinnati (2 Stars)
vs. Penn State (3.5 Stars, Penn State was good at the time)
vs. Iowa (3.5 Stars, Iowa undefeated at the time)
vs. Bowling Green (cupcake)
vs. Michigan State (2.5 Stars)
vs. Indiana (2 Stars)
vs. Minnesota (2.5 Stars)
at. Illinois (2 Stars, nearly cupcake though)
at. Northwestern (2 Stars)
vs. Michigan (5 Stars)

toughest games: Michigan, Texas, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan St?


USC:
at. Arkansas (4 Stars, although ARK is top 10, they were bad week 1)
vs. Nebraska (4 Stars, they won the Big10 North)
at. Arizona (2.5 Stars)
at. Washington State (3 Stars, were as high as #23)
vs. Washington (2 Stars)
vs. Arizona State (2.5 Stars)
vs. Oregon State (2.5 Stars, formerly #25, but because they beat USC)
at. Stanford (cupcake)
vs. Oregon (3.5 Stars, I'd say they are as good as Iowa/PennSt.)
vs. California (4 Stars)
vs. Notre Dame (4.5 Stars, I think they suck but they were #2 at one point)
vs. UCLA (2.5 Stars)

Toughest Games: Notre Dame, Arkansas, California, Nebraska, Oregon

*in comparsion, their PAC-10 schedule was slightly harder than Ohio States' Big 10 schedule. Out of conferernce, USC's schedule was far better. This is not a knock on the Buckeyes', I just used them as a frame of reference because they are said to have a decent schedule. Strength of schedule is determined after the season however..

[gators52]

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Inte...games_past.pdf

check this out...USC has a good scheule, but look who is number 1 :

[CEDeoudes59]

I agree, but I have to consider ND a 4.5star team.. The Michigan win vaulted them to #2... and the USC win vaulted them to #2.

When it comes down to it, the best win Notre Dame had (and best ever for Brady Quinn was) 13-7 against Georgia Tech. 13-7, it was I think.

Meyer is right the gators deverse respect, but the reasons he gives are so stupid. "We beat Kentucky" "then we beat Alabama." Nobody takes that bull**** seriously. He should point to that the Gators basically lost to Auburn on the road by one score (fumble return with :00 left had no bearing on the game). Meyer is just assuming that everyone in America buys that the SEC is far better than every conference by far. The USC 50-14 crushing of Arkansas (SEC West champions) is absolutely huge in crumbling Meyers' strength of conference argument.

Gators52, isn't this way -- but the argument on campus "for florida" is that USC lost to Oregon State by 2. Gator fans only point to the loses rather than mentioning anything about the wins.

With that logic, neither USC or Florida deserve a bid. Our national championship game is Boise State vs. Ohio State.

[jarhead]

Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59

Well, let's just compare...
Ohio State isn't considered to have a soft schedule.

vs. North Illinois (2 Stars)
at. Texas (4.5 Stars, Longhorns are more like 4 Stars now though, could be considered top 5 at the time though)
vs. Cincinnati (2 Stars)
vs. Penn State (3.5 Stars, Penn State was good at the time)
vs. Iowa (3.5 Stars, Iowa undefeated at the time)
vs. Bowling Green (cupcake)
vs. Michigan State (2.5 Stars)
vs. Indiana (2 Stars)
vs. Minnesota (2.5 Stars)
at. Illinois (2 Stars, nearly cupcake though)
at. Northwestern (2 Stars)
vs. Michigan (5 Stars)

toughest games: Michigan, Texas, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan St?


USC:
at. Arkansas (4 Stars, although ARK is top 10, they were bad week 1)
vs. Nebraska (4 Stars, they won the Big10 North)
at. Arizona (2.5 Stars)
at. Washington State (3 Stars, were as high as #23)
vs. Washington (2 Stars)
vs. Arizona State (2.5 Stars)
vs. Oregon State (2.5 Stars, formerly #25, but because they beat USC)
at. Stanford (cupcake)
vs. Oregon (3.5 Stars, I'd say they are as good as Iowa/PennSt.)
vs. California (4 Stars)
vs. Notre Dame (4.5 Stars, I think they suck but they were #2 at one point)
vs. UCLA (2.5 Stars)

Toughest Games: Notre Dame, Arkansas, California, Nebraska, Oregon

*in comparsion, their PAC-10 schedule was slightly harder than Ohio States' Big 10 schedule. Out of conferernce, USC's schedule was far better. This is not a knock on the Buckeyes', I just used them as a frame of reference because they are said to have a decent schedule. Strength of schedule is determined after the season however..

That's a pretty interesting breakdown. I'm pretty interested to see OSU and USC go at it, if that's how it plays out.

[Iron Warrior]

Well, Michigan had its shot at #1 and we know what happened. Let's see USC take its chance at #1 and see what may or may not happen