Steroids in the NFL

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  1. Steroids in the NFL


    What is your guys view on the amount of performance enhancing drugs in the NFL?

    I would guess at least 90% use or have used in the past, and nearly all lineman are nearly forced to use GH during season for recovery and size/strength.


  2. I would have to say that the use is very high, especially AAS in the offseason. These guys are genetic freaks as it is, but when you see guys that big and cut, run that fast, cmon......we all know whats up.
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  3. That's anybody's guess but some people I've talked to have speculated as high as 70%. I'm sure kickers and some QB's are the only steroid free players LOL

  4. .... and I hope it doesn't change.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous
    .... and I hope it doesn't change.
    Indeed, it makes it more fun to watch, especially when 250 pound linebackers blindside QB's at the speed of light
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  6. Yes NFL players use steroids, and they should let baseball players do it too! Oh, no we have 40 year olds playing better then 20 year olds? It should be:
    "Look we have 40 year olds playing better then 20 year olds!"
    Yea, just what I want to see, fat Babe Ruth with no work ethic doing well, he would get owned (deservidly) in todays baseball.

  7. Who's to say that great players in the past didn't use some sort of perfomance enhancers. The difference is that steroids are illegal

  8. it is definately more fun to watch, love the bone crunching hits and lightening fast speed. nfl is the best sport to watch

  9. Charles Poliquin actually stated that the NFL's program is relatively clean. I have a hard time believing that.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    Charles Poliquin actually stated that the NFL's program is relatively clean. I have a hard time believing that.
    He's a consultant trainer for a couple of teams. He doesn't want to screw around with that cash cow.

  11. The size is a pretty good indication plus their ability to keep the size, but what really shows it is their speed. It is just unbelievable. I don't really care. Football is the greatest sport on earth. I'm dying right now. I've even started watching the Europe league.

  12. I think its personal choice. Thats like asking about strippers with boob jobs. If it makes you better and can help you then the risk should be up to you. When you get hit everyday. S*** I feel for them. And for those haters!!!! Just stop. Just my opinion!!!!!!

  13. Do you think that the NFL really tests its players for performance enhancing drugs?

    I mean, we all know they supposedly take samples and send them to labs, but do they really care what the results are?

    I think the majority of positive steroids results that are shown on television may just be political moves on the part of the NFL to make it look like the Jackasses of the league are the only ones on steroids, such as Tony Mandarich, Brian Bosworth, and Bill Romanowski.

    I don't know if I would go that far, but I am starting to really wonder if thats not how it goes.

    It certainly makes the game more interesting when the players are juiced.

  14. There are quite a few players that test positive, but they are not big names and are the media does not usually report those because it does not create headlines

  15. I agree with you 100% and that number may be higher. I think across the sports league there is a steroid problem.

    They are only reporting on the high profile names because that what sell news.

    If the sports league did a surprise urine test on every sport player, I bet the world would be in shock or in denial that their sport teams are taking steroids.


    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
    That's anybody's guess but some people I've talked to have speculated as high as 70%. I'm sure kickers and some QB's are the only steroid free players LOL

  16. The only steroid problem that exists in sports is that they are banned in sports and the media gives a crap. The fact that so many players take steroids is not a problem at all.

    For the NFL this is especially true. Without steroids, I would wager the average career would be 3 years due to injuries and sheer overtraining. How many beatings can an unenhanced body take and how rapidly can it recover?

  17. I read that 12 players from the Raiders were involved in the Balco case, were they were recieving steroids, and other drugs from the same doctor.

    Then on the Panthers a different doctor was supplying drugs to another 10-12 players, but only a few of them got in legal trouble for it.

    This would be like half the starting team of 2 super bowl appearing teams (in the past 5-6 years) known to be using steroids.

    Its pretty damning. Everyone is juiced. Even kickers are getting caught!

    Oh, and USC got in trouble because its athletic trainers were supplying athletes with drugs. It didn't say to what extent or what sport. This stuff is a necessity to really be competitive in sports today.

    I can't even imagine what the NFL would be like if noone was on, or had ever used performance enhancing drugs.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Methyl

    Its pretty damning. Everyone is juiced. Even kickers are getting caught!
    That's right, Todd Saerbraun the punter for the Panthers tested positive about 1 year ago, how did I forget about that one, a ****in punter getting juiced LOL

  19. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the testing isn't much of a test at all from what I understand. They don't test overall hormone levels, they test the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. So one can take testosterone provided they maintain the "right" ratio with epitestosterone. This allows the major leagues to say they test for steroids. Only the idiots (whizzinator) and the sloppy get caught and receive suspensions. And life goes on.

  20. Im also pretty sure they dont test in the off season, which is when you would run a cycle.

  21. Well, I would think they would run bigger cycles in the offseason to build size, power, or speed, as they need for their position. But I would also think it would be pretty important to be on during the season just to recover from both games and contact practice sessions.

    I don't remember the exact testing regimen but I do think it includes during and post season as well, and supposedly it's unannounced. Question that one though

  22. Considering that nowadays you see linebackers that are 350lbs with 10-12%BF and can run fast you know somethings up, lol. They are also up their for their use of amphetamines and painkillers. I wouldn't want them to stop using gear, lol. It's cool to see 300+lb guys run each other down, lol. Growth hormone of course is a must with the abuse these guys are taking on their joints. Apparently from what i've read they use the amphetamines to heighten aggression and you practically don't feel any pain when you on them.

  23. of course they take them. How else can you play such a brutal sport, practice 4 times a week, and train in the weight room and run sprints on your off days? the human body cannot do that naturally.

    And when you hear about guys coming back from back or shoulder injuries in just 3 weeks, just as strong as before.... duh!

    If the NFL eliminated steroids, then it'd become what football was the 30s.... a bunch of 220 lbs linemen and 175 lbs quarterbacks lol.

  24. oh btw. Remember when that pro wrestler died and people speculated it was related to steroid abuse? Guerrero or something was his name. The WWE then announced it would start a steroid testing program. I laughed my ass off when I heard that. Their steroid testing program is likely to be as real as the matches.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    Charles Poliquin actually stated that the NFL's program is relatively clean. I have a hard time believing that.
    No kidding. Look at the football players 20yrs ago versus today. "relatively clean".... I guess this IS coming from a bodybuilder isn't it? lol. 1g/wk and 5ius gh/day are "relatively clean" to anybody involved in the pro bbing industry.hahaah

  26. Quote Originally Posted by lifthardheavy
    oh btw. Remember when that pro wrestler died and people speculated it was related to steroid abuse? Guerrero or something was his name. The WWE then announced it would start a steroid testing program. I laughed my ass off when I heard that. Their steroid testing program is likely to be as real as the matches.
    I'd like to see you get in the ring and do what those guys do...

  27. He didnt say it wasn't tough, he just said that the matches are setup...whch they are.

    And guerrero was a coke-head for years and years.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    He didnt say it wasn't tough, he just said that the matches are setup...whch they are.

    And guerrero was a coke-head for years and years.
    I understand that and yeah they are setup. But to see what those guys do so they don't hurt themselves or the person they are wrestling, makes it real enough for me(and others).

  29. I actually think the NFL is very clean for two reason #1 They have the most concrete testing regimen of any sport in the world #2 Football has always been ahead of the curve when it comes to training

  30. Quote Originally Posted by ELTORONEGRO
    I actually think the NFL is very clean for two reason #1 They have the most concrete testing regimen of any sport in the world #2 Football has always been ahead of the curve when it comes to training

    You can't be serious.
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