What is your guys view on the amount of performance enhancing drugs in the NFL?
I would guess at least 90% use or have used in the past, and nearly all lineman are nearly forced to use GH during season for recovery and size/strength.
I would have to say that the use is very high, especially AAS in the offseason. These guys are genetic freaks as it is, but when you see guys that big and cut, run that fast, cmon......we all know whats up.
That's anybody's guess but some people I've talked to have speculated as high as 70%. I'm sure kickers and some QB's are the only steroid free players LOL
.... and I hope it doesn't change.
Indeed, it makes it more fun to watch, especially when 250 pound linebackers blindside QB's at the speed of lightOriginally Posted by Ubiquitous
Yes NFL players use steroids, and they should let baseball players do it too! Oh, no we have 40 year olds playing better then 20 year olds? It should be:
"Look we have 40 year olds playing better then 20 year olds!"
Yea, just what I want to see, fat Babe Ruth with no work ethic doing well, he would get owned (deservidly) in todays baseball.
Who's to say that great players in the past didn't use some sort of perfomance enhancers. The difference is that steroids are illegal
it is definately more fun to watch, love the bone crunching hits and lightening fast speed. nfl is the best sport to watch
Charles Poliquin actually stated that the NFL's program is relatively clean. I have a hard time believing that.
He's a consultant trainer for a couple of teams. He doesn't want to screw around with that cash cow.Originally Posted by bioman
The size is a pretty good indication plus their ability to keep the size, but what really shows it is their speed. It is just unbelievable. I don't really care. Football is the greatest sport on earth. I'm dying right now. I've even started watching the Europe league.
I think its personal choice. Thats like asking about strippers with boob jobs. If it makes you better and can help you then the risk should be up to you. When you get hit everyday. S*** I feel for them. And for those haters!!!! Just stop. Just my opinion!!!!!!
Do you think that the NFL really tests its players for performance enhancing drugs?
I mean, we all know they supposedly take samples and send them to labs, but do they really care what the results are?
I think the majority of positive steroids results that are shown on television may just be political moves on the part of the NFL to make it look like the Jackasses of the league are the only ones on steroids, such as Tony Mandarich, Brian Bosworth, and Bill Romanowski.
I don't know if I would go that far, but I am starting to really wonder if thats not how it goes.
It certainly makes the game more interesting when the players are juiced.
There are quite a few players that test positive, but they are not big names and are the media does not usually report those because it does not create headlines
I agree with you 100% and that number may be higher. I think across the sports league there is a steroid problem.
They are only reporting on the high profile names because that what sell news.
If the sports league did a surprise urine test on every sport player, I bet the world would be in shock or in denial that their sport teams are taking steroids.
Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
The only steroid problem that exists in sports is that they are banned in sports and the media gives a crap. The fact that so many players take steroids is not a problem at all.
For the NFL this is especially true. Without steroids, I would wager the average career would be 3 years due to injuries and sheer overtraining. How many beatings can an unenhanced body take and how rapidly can it recover?
I read that 12 players from the Raiders were involved in the Balco case, were they were recieving steroids, and other drugs from the same doctor.
Then on the Panthers a different doctor was supplying drugs to another 10-12 players, but only a few of them got in legal trouble for it.
This would be like half the starting team of 2 super bowl appearing teams (in the past 5-6 years) known to be using steroids.
Its pretty damning. Everyone is juiced. Even kickers are getting caught!
Oh, and USC got in trouble because its athletic trainers were supplying athletes with drugs. It didn't say to what extent or what sport. This stuff is a necessity to really be competitive in sports today.
I can't even imagine what the NFL would be like if noone was on, or had ever used performance enhancing drugs.
That's right, Todd Saerbraun the punter for the Panthers tested positive about 1 year ago, how did I forget about that one, a ****in punter getting juiced LOLOriginally Posted by Mr. Methyl
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the testing isn't much of a test at all from what I understand. They don't test overall hormone levels, they test the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. So one can take testosterone provided they maintain the "right" ratio with epitestosterone. This allows the major leagues to say they test for steroids. Only the idiots (whizzinator) and the sloppy get caught and receive suspensions. And life goes on.
Im also pretty sure they dont test in the off season, which is when you would run a cycle.