no doubt, he was badass in his prime.
no doubt, he was badass in his prime.
No doubt B, dude was a badass in every sense of the word. He was his own worst enemy, but damn he was bad.
Tyson was a beast. I wonder how great he would have turned out if he was mentally stable ?
Tyson vs ALI
Both in their prime
I say Ali
no...tribal tattoos on the face are badass
HmmmOriginally Posted by WuNLuvBo0mR
He was definitely a bad ass. I would have liked to see him accept the challenge from Bob Sapp. That would have been a good one.
TysonOriginally Posted by CDONDICI
The scary thing is he never really had a "prime". His career was interrupted by the rape thing and prison, etc. etc. As good as he was when he was late teens- earlier 20's, imagine if he had trained seriously and developed the rest of his career and not had the breaks( and breakdowns). The guy woulda been a monster and maybe the best ever. He had a combination of speed and power that probably will never be seen again. And when he was younger, he even knew how to box a little bit. What a badass.
Thanks...Mike was a beast.
Anyways, Mike could never beat a prime Ali because Ali would get in Mike's head and Mike would already be beaten come fightime.
Ali was, (is) the supreme pugilist, in his own words, "The Greatest". Tyson was a virtual knockout machine at first, sadly after his trainer, handler passed away his talent seemed to erode. Boxing hasnt been the same since.
****ty technicaly boxer. Great brawler.
Ali, just because Tyson doesn't have the mental fortitude to beat him. Tyson was sadly his own worst enemy.Originally Posted by CDONDICI
Without a doubt Iron Mike would have kicked some serious ass.....while he isn't a technical fighter, the guy had no fear and an intimidation that will probably never be seen again. In that clip there is a guy that actaully runs to the corner and falls on the mat giving up....unrealOriginally Posted by CDONDICI
Flat out, without a doubt, period, Mike Tyson was the most physically gifted fighter ever. I don't even know how anyone can make a case otherwise. Tyson was as quick and agile as any lightweight, his body more durable than any middleweight, and he flat out packed a punch more deadly than anyone ever.
Technically he WAS a great fighter. Nobody perfected the bob and weave like Iron Mike. Few could even touch him because his defense was so good and he was so quick and elusive.
Mentally, he was held together by string, wrapped so tightly that at anytime he could break.
Ali vs. Tyson? No contest, not even close. Ali was the greatest, but Tyson was FASTER, STRONGER, and in his albeit short prime, had a chin that could take anything. Ali would not have lasted against Tyson's barage. Ali would not have been able to get past Tyson's bob and weave defenses and would have been devastated with an uppercut landing him on the canvas.
That's all considering Tyson would be mentally stable, was ready to fight, and was at the top of his game. Mike's prime was never reached because of the rape trial. Also, he was never the same after losing Cus.
When some talk about the biggest waste of talent you CAN make a case for Tyson even though he was the undisputed champion for a while. We didn't even get a chance to see him nearly at the top of his game.
Imagine Tyson with a sound mind, with the training and dedication that Bernard Hopkins has. Tyson may never have lost until his 50s....lol
A chin that could take anything?
In his "prime" what exactly did he "take"? He didn't exactly get many clean shots thrown at him.
I still don't think Tyson was a good technical boxer. You saw it in his approach. He simply bullied his opponents and it worked. He was not a good technical boxer.
Tyson went longer than 2 rounds more than people think. How many times was he knocked down? He's went the distance with a fighters quite a few times.
And just because he uses a brawler approach, doesn't mean he's not a technical fighter. You may see him flail but there's a ton of strategy behind his punch techniques. Take a look at his combos. Very few, if anybody had the quickness and technique to land the body/face combos that he did. Mike was an extremely intelligent boxer when he had the tools to back that style up.
No, he wasn't your prototypical jab jab boxer. No way, but that would have been ridiculously stupid for him. Tyson earned his living an quick, decisive combos. He fed on chaining hard punches together and using speed and power to overwhelm his oponents. Many see a brawler but there's so much technique behind it's unimagineable. There have been tons of fighters as strong as Mike, and a few as quick too, but nobody that was able to see holes in his opponents and continually exploit them.
Reminds me of another fighter that nobody could beat..........
A Russian and an American wrestler were set to square off for the Olympic Gold medal.
Before the final match, the American wrestler's trainer came to him and said "Now, don't forget all the research we've done on this Russian.
He's never lost a match because of this 'pretzel' hold he has, whatever you do, do not let him get you in that hold! If
he does, you're finished!"
The wrestler nodded in acknowledgment. As the match started, the American and the Russian circled each Other several times, looking for an opening.
All of a sudden, the Russian lunged forward, grabbing the American and wrapping him up in the dreaded pretzel hold.
A sigh of disappointment arose from the crowd and the trainer
buried his face in his hands, for he knew all was lost.
He couldn't watch the inevitable happen.
Suddenly, there was a scream, then a cheer from the crowd and
the trainer raised his eyes just in time to watch the Russian go flying up in the air.
His back hit the mat with a thud and the American collapsed on
top of him making the pin and winning the match.
The trainer was astounded.
When he finally got his wrestler alone, He asked "How did you
ever get out of that hold? No one has ever done it before!"
The wrestler answered, "Well, I was ready to give up when he got me in that hold but at the last moment, I opened my eyes and saw this pair of testicles right in front of my face.
I had nothing to lose so with my last ounce of strength I
stretched out my neck and bit those babies just as hard as I could."
So, the trainer exclaimed, "That's what finished him off!"
"Not really. You'd be amazed how strong you get when you
bite your own nuts!"
I can't breath...........